Windows Server 8 to Get a New File System: ReFS

[Guest]

Sounds like ZFS... hmm...

 

[dontknownotsure]

now i imagine spam files of unspeakable namelength

 

[ojas]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Programming background... lazy, we hate to type long variables [/citation]
:lol: so true!

 

[guardianangel42]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]out of curiosity, how many programs use more than 46656 files?you could easily name them aaa, aab, aac, aad, aae... ect for a long time before you would ever need a 4th letter, and that would give you 1679616 file head room... thats figured useing these keys abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890[/citation]
Yes, but then you have to remember the difference between abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890 and abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567901 on your own.

 

[Guest]

will you be able to see folder sizes in win8? you'd think they'd have done that a long time ago

 

[cybersans]

after over than decade, they change the filesystem.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Ahem, when I said 'short' names I did not mean a,b,c of course. Descriptive is ok, just not 256 characters long. That's not descriptive, that's a short story[/citation]
i am lazy to the point that i would use 3 or 4 letters descriptions, just using abbreviations and a number at the end.

 

[shin0bi272]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Yes, I figured something along the filename/path thing.Also I rarely use long filenames myself. Programming background... lazy, we hate to type long variables and before someone yells CUT and PASTE... I am the generation well before cut and paste. I speak peek and poke and old habits die hard [/citation]


Dont try to be hipster and claim you dont use long file names because 8.3 is cool because we all know its a lie.

 

[iLLz]

For those trying to understand the graph its just showing what code was kept from NTFS and still used in ReFS and also what code was completely rewritten. Basically all the low level functionality in ReFS was rewritten to get rid of the legacy stuff in NTFS. It was counterproductive and many professionals wanted it gone. MS did just that but kept alot of the higher level stuff from NTFS that was actually useful.

 

[mightymaxio]

This would be very interesting for use on a fileserver where you need data not to be corrupt. I'll be reading more about this as Windows 8 server nears and I look forward to testing it out compared to NTFS on Windows 8 server. I just hope I get a copy for free from dreamspark as I can with Windows 2008 R2 because i'm a student.

 

[STravis]

I don't know about everyone else, but long filenames don't mean all that much to me. Windows already provides the ability to tag files for easy searching *by author name, title, etc* so giving me longer filenames just seems (from a client perspective) like a waste of resources.

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]As with any new file system, it takes time to become adopted. NTFS was not fully adopted until late into XPs release, some people were still using FAT32.Honestly though it looks interesting. Looks more geared towards servers, as NTFS does what we need for DT but maybe it will incorporate a few things from the now dead WINFS.....[/citation]

the only reason why that was because before XP the consumers only had the 9x series which only supported FAT32.. if windows 2k was allowed to be the consumer OS successor to windows 98SE then NTFS would have been used more.

 

[Northwestern]

Reminds me of Windows 95 and NT 4.0..

Or when the release of XP marked the end of FAT32.

 

[koga73]

exciting... like registered memory!
unfortunate that it won't initially support encryption or compression though

 

[wannabepro]

Hmm...

 

[g-unit1111]

I'm not sure if I approve the idea of having files "always online". I think it would be fine for every day users but for business and enterprise having sensitive data out in the open seems like it would make it far more inviting and vulnerable to hackers.

 

[huron]

Interesting...I've been complaining that Windows needs to come up with a new file system that does things like ZFS or BTRFS is attempting to do...checksums, etc.

Nice to see it coming out at some point soon. NTFS has been good, but the extra features offered in more advanced file systems make it look like a dinosaur.

 

[back_by_demand]

There is only one thing I am looking forward to and that will be native transfer of files between this file system and files on drives formated in various flavours of EXT, so I can transfer files back and to at will between Linux drives and windows drives without having to install EXT2FSD or some other ropey 3rd party software. That would be nice, please, thanks.

 

[eddieroolz]

Looks good, it's exciting to see the filesystems evolve.

 

[freggo]

[citation][nom]shin0bi272[/nom]Dont try to be hipster and claim you dont use long file names because 8.3 is cool because we all know its a lie.[/citation]

Nothing 'hip' about being lazy.
I rarely use a long file name for a number of reasons.
Any I also never use capitals or spaces in them; if you have made websites on Linux servers you know
why

 

[gogogadgetliver]

[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]I don't understand the graphs of NTFS and ReFS. Can anyone explain?[/citation]

Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests

 

[captaincharisma]

its going to be interesting to see how businesses will react to windows server 8 because of the Metro GUI