[SOLVED] Windows xp and 7 build

[thatmoritryhard]

I'm *trying* to build a windows xp, 7 and older, system. Which build should i use :
- xeon x5460 - 27 euros | 24 pounds | 31 dollars
- MSI G41M P33 Combo - 27 euros | 24 pounds | 31 dollars
- 4 gb / 8 gb ram (i'll buy 2x4 and use 1x4 for winxp) - 42 euros | 37 pounds | 48 dollars

or

- fx 8320 - 42 euros | 37 pounds | 48 dollars
- AsRock 960GM-GS3 FX, AM3+ - 21 euros | 18 pounds | 24 dollars
- 4 gb / 8 gb ram (i'll buy 2x4 and use 1x4 for winxp) - 42 euros | 37 pounds | 48 dollars

 

[HEXiT]

if your building a system for legacy o.s's then your best bet is go as old as you can hardware wise as you will have more options for driver support.

win 7 will work fine with the amd cpu but things like hpet wont be supported on xp and pre-xp builds.
problem is hpet is essential for windows 7 to work in anything resembling a stable way...
but have it enabled in xp and you will get bsods.

 

[thatmoritryhard]

The post with processor got deleted, so i need to find another one an intel one, phenom or fx?

 

[Aeacus]

I'd go with Phenom II X6, e.g 1055T. And if i remember correctly, you found Phenom II X6 1095T and asked about it.

 

[thatmoritryhard]

Yeah but i can't find it anymore.

EDIT : Can't seem to find any X6s.
Found a kit with good mobo, a cooler master double CPU cooler and a phenom II X4 B55 CPU at the same price as the x6.
For the gpu part i don't know for sure, it's either the 560ti or lower version or a gtx 580 bcs I've managed to find a 580 msi twin for 5 pounds less which in Romania that means triple or double for what it means in outside. Btw if i play only old school games would the lower consumption be lower? If yes how lower, cause i saw a graph in which the 580 consumed around 370w and the 560ti consumed 310w in Crysis.

Btw i have found this psu for around 60 pounds :
Segotep GP700P, 80+ Platinum, 600W

 

[starwarsgamer5001]

FWIW this thread has my xp windows 7 build. https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...stem-for-legacy-gaming.3433725/#post-20804595

I was thinking about upgrading so I could play more modern games at higher fps but realized none of the new hardware works with xp. So my best bet was to keep what I had (will be building a completely new system and running both off the same monitor in the future.)

My system runs legacy games just fine and some modern games at decent levels. I'm not sure about the Nvidia cards but through my research I learned the newest amd cards that will work with XP are any in the R9 200 series but not R9 300 series.

 

[thatmoritryhard]

I saw that you were talking about the 8350. Should i go with the 8350 or the Phenom II X4 B55 cause i saw that the 8350 aren't actually cores by the definition, or should i go with some intel stuff ? btw neat gpu

https://imgur.com/a/j0tRxwg

View: https://imgur.com/a/j0tRxwg

 

[thatmoritryhard]

Btw which psu should i buy the Segotep GP700P, 80+ Platinum, 600W for 60 pounds or the Segotep GP600T, 80+ Titanium, 500W for the same price ?

 

[Aeacus]

Segotep, while well known brand in China, is mostly unknown brand in the rest of the world and in PSU community as well.

I couldn't find any reputable reviews of the two Segoteop units you mentioned and here, i'd avoid Segotep PSUs. Without reputable review, it's impossible to tell how good build quality those PSUs have. Also, PSU's efficiency (80+ Platinum, 80+ Titanium) has little to nothing to do with PSU's build quality.
Power supplies are guilty until proven innocent; you need reasons to buy a PSU, not reasons to reject a PSU.

Only official info about GP600T which i found was on the Segotep webpage and news article where they upgraded the GP600T warranty from 3 years to 7 years,
link: https://en.segotep.com/news_show.aspx?id=6

For comparison: Seasonic, one of the oldest and best PSU OEMs in the world; when they released their PRIME series 80+ Titanium PSU, Seasonic gave the PSU 10 years of warranty and not 3 years, like Segotep did. After some time, Seasonic also upgraded PRIME series PSUs warranty but within reason and they added 2 years. At current date, Seasonic is the only PSU OEM/brand in the world who offers 12 years of warranty for their flagship PRIME series PSUs. Also, Seasonic PRIME series PSUs are the best PSUs in the world money can buy.

That being said, i suggest that you look towards any Seasonic PSU in 600W range. You don't have to go with the PRIME series, Seasonic also offers more wallet friendly Focus and Focus+ series. Even the older Seasonic units: S12II series, M12II EVO series, S12G series, G-series, X-series are good quality PSUs,
pcpp: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/nB3RsY,Tc3RsY,qZKhP6,WrNypg/

Warranty wise:
S12II: 5 years
M12II EVO: 5 years
Focus+: 10 years
PRIME: 12 years (includes all PRIME models: regular, Fanless, AirTouch, SnowSilent, Ultra)

All my 3 PCs: Skylake, Haswell and AMD are also powered by Seasonic. Full specs with pics in my sig.

 

[thatmoritryhard]

Which cpu should i go for? Cause i can't find any x6 and the x4 b55 kit doesn't have pcile 3.0.

Should i buy a second hand seasonic platinum 860w? https://ibb.co/TR9mRws

 

[thatmoritryhard]

Mate i need a quick answer a r7 240 for 10 pounds or a r7 270x for 30 pounds or less ? for the xp and 7 build.

 

[Aeacus]

Like i said in the 1st page of this topic, any Core 2/Phenom II/First Gen I7 will do just fine. Do read what i say since i do not like repeating myself over and over again within same topic.

When it comes to the PSUs, it's bad idea to buy used PSUs, regardless their build quality since you have no idea what kind of abuse it has seen. Also, when buying used PSU, you won't get any warranty with the unit. Seasonic is the only PSU OEM in the world who offers transferable warranty though.

And lastly, there are no R7 270X GPUs. What there is, is R9 270X,
comparison: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-R7-240-vs-AMD-R9-270X/m8608vs2188