Windows XP - SP2?

[fred]

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<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
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> "You're mistaken. Cite a reference." Okay. Brain Livingston, Editor and
> Publisher of the excellent Windows Secrets newsletter (ex-columnist for
> InfoWorld), recommends just about any firewall other than Microsoft's
band-aid
> incoming-only firewall distributed with SP2. His preference (and mine) is
Zone
> Alarm,

Too complicated for the average user. The first thing they'll end up doin
is disabling automatic virus signature updates. Do you have any real world
experience. How many of you zealots derive income from selling 3rd party
firewalls?

> but there are others which work well. I suppose I could dig out other
> references from other largely independent publications like NYT, WSJ, PC
World,
> and PC Magazine. But the industy at large, except Microsoft, is almost
> unanimous that a non-Microsoft firewall is better.

NONSENSE!

Microsoft seems to be in
> denial of the reality. You seem to be too. Are you a Microsoft troll, a
> Microsoft shill, or a Microsoft employee hired to spread disinformation in
free
> and open newsgroups?

None of the above but I'm someone who actually has real world experience in
these matters.

Can anyone cite a case with references where a PC protected with MS's SP2
firewall, along with a good & current virus+spyware checker has been
penetrated/infected due to a weakness in SP2's firewall? I don't think so.

 

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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>
>SNIP
>
> Right, there's always folks passin around FUD.
>
>
At least "fred" now admits that he is passing around FUD.

I think we may coin a new acronym...FFUD "freds" FUD!
It is special FUD as can only be created in the miniscule mind of "fred"

Bobby

 

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Fred,

after reading several of your ridiculous posts on this newsgroup I
have decided to add you to my kill filter so ...Ploink...Plonk.....
whatever, your are gone....



Bob





On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:36:52 GMT, "fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote:

>
>"Jupiter Jones" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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>> Bob;
>> "Microsoft claims that about 15% of people installing SP2 will have issues
>> with it."
>> "issues" is ANYTHING from the smallest undesired change such as the change
>> in color on the boot screen to major problems.
>> Do not make the mistake that "issues" means major problems...very rare.
>
>VERY RARE. MS never claimed 15% in any case.
>
>> Most of those are simple settings adjustments such as disabling the
>Windows
>> Firewall when it is not needed.
>> Other issues are easily fixed by software or hardware updates from the
>> manufacturer.
>> Most of those would not have even been issues if the owner had researched
>> those items.
>>
>> Other issues are caused by computers already damaged with spyware and
>other
>> problems, known or unknown.
>> Preparation, research and a well maintained computer is less likely to
>have
>> any problems.
>>
>> What do other flight simmers do?
>> I see few problems with SP-2 in the sim newsgroups I watch.
>>
>> If you choose not to install SP-2, be sure it is for the correct reason.
>
>Right, there's always folks passin around FUD.
>

 

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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> Can anyone cite a case with references where a PC protected with MS's SP2
> firewall, along with a good & current virus+spyware checker has been
> penetrated/infected due to a weakness in SP2's firewall? I don't think
> so.
>
>

Interesting that you never replied how the firewall protects from Floppies,
CDs and USB Keys. Viruses propigate daily -- faster than updates. All it
takes is one Trojon on one floppy.

Then you'll understand.

Hmm, maybe you won't. You have shown much in the way of smarts.

 

[fred]

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"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
> news:uV9re.944790$w62.565472@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> > Can anyone cite a case with references where a PC protected with MS's
SP2
> > firewall, along with a good & current virus+spyware checker has been
> > penetrated/infected due to a weakness in SP2's firewall? I don't think
> > so.
> >
> >
>
> Interesting that you never replied how the firewall protects from
Floppies,
> CDs and USB Keys. Viruses propigate daily -- faster than updates. All it
> takes is one Trojon on one floppy.

Clueless, "a good virus checker" is what I said and they DO protect from
floppies but floppy propagation is archaic...EMAIL idiot and a good current
virus checker protects against email born virus also.

> Then you'll understand.
>
> Hmm, maybe you won't. You have shown much in the way of smarts.

The regulars here are systematically un-informed.

 

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:9Ecre.128308$IO.17121@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>> "fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
>> news:uV9re.944790$w62.565472@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> > Can anyone cite a case with references where a PC protected with MS's
> SP2
>> > firewall, along with a good & current virus+spyware checker has been
>> > penetrated/infected due to a weakness in SP2's firewall? I don't think
>> > so.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Interesting that you never replied how the firewall protects from
> Floppies,
>> CDs and USB Keys. Viruses propigate daily -- faster than updates. All it
>> takes is one Trojon on one floppy.
>
> Clueless, "a good virus checker" is what I said and they DO protect from
> floppies but floppy propagation is archaic...EMAIL idiot and a good
> current
> virus checker protects against email born virus also.
>
>> Then you'll understand.
>>
>> Hmm, maybe you won't. You have shown much in the way of smarts.
>
> The regulars here are systematically un-informed.
>
>
The only one uninformed here is you. Trouble is, you are just too stupid to
know it.

Bobby

 

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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> Clueless, "a good virus checker" is what I said and they DO protect from
> floppies but floppy propagation is archaic...EMAIL idiot and a good
> current
> virus checker protects against email born virus also.
>
>> Then you'll understand.
>>
>> Hmm, maybe you won't. You have shown much in the way of smarts.
>
> The regulars here are systematically un-informed.
>
>

You think virus updates are magic? New viruses never come out?

You don't use a USB key. Do you even know what one is?

Tom

 

[fred]

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Can anyone cite a case with references where a PC protected with MS's
SP2 firewall, along with a good & current virus+spyware checker has been
penetrated/infected due to a weakness in SP2's firewall? I don't think so.

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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