Woman in HP Sexual Harrassment Case Speaks

[Vestin]

[citation][nom]disposition rate[/nom]Simply intriguing; are you trying to be funny or are you borderline mentally retarded?[/citation]
Can I choose both ?
[citation]
Given "Aussie_Bear's" statement, the absolute black-and-white converse must be true![/citation]
Yeah, scratch that. The thought behind it made more sense, but the words I used made it sound less than intuitive.

[citation]It appears you misread and/or misinterpreted the usage of the word can in this context.[/citation]
No, not really. Let me explain the thought process behind all of this. His claim was about the alleged correlation between failing to act in a way that makes you the least prone to sexual harassment suits, lack character traits helping maintain such behavior and failure on a professional level. If we assume this to be true, then "natural selection" will weed out such CEOs, while promoting the opposite behavior...

Sure - my post was an exaggeration. Sure - using the word "can" helps because the world is full of possibilities.
I still think one's personal (including erotic) life can not and should not be used as an argument when dealing with professional issues. Whether the guy would be a serial killer, Buddhist or a golf player - it doesn't matter.
Of course - there are those who read magazines dealing with private lives of public people...

 

[Guest]

sexual harassment does not necessarily entail sex. in fact it usually doesn't. she does not say there was no legitimate sexual harassment. she says she did not have an affair with him. anyone who calls here agold digger or makes accusations of "prudishness" needs to take a moment to seriously consider their own ingrained misogyny that inspired such a mental leap to the wrong conclusion.

 

[Guest]

sexual harassment doesn't exist it's just women wanting attention

 

[jerreece]

First of all, any woman who poses for photos like the one above, performs in "softcore porn" videos and the like, should have ABSOLUTELY no claims for sexual harassment. If you're going to live the life of a skank, expect people to treat you like one. If you wish to make yourself a sexual object, don't be surprised when people treat you like one.

Now, if you want to act like a mature, noble, and beautiful woman, then you can expect to be treated like a lady.

This woman needs to decide who she is. A porn star, or a noble mother.

 

[mikem_90]

[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]The mistake he made was not keeping it secretive enough... for crying out LOUD why not just take the 20G's from your wallet and pay the lady... Don't fudge expense reports when your weekly paycheck eclipses them by at least double.[/citation]

Actually if you deal much with upper business and rich people in general, my experiences have been that one of the ways they get rich and stay rich is finding ways to NOT pay for things.

A customer of mine owned large sections of land in the midwest, owned his own plane, ran a law office as a TAX dodge, and still wanted one of our employees to illegally duplicate his high end sever network in another location without a license, and pay him under the table, not the company!

In my years of dealing with companies and business owners, it seems the richer they are, the more they're willing to fudge reports, stiff creditors, and take advantage of anything not spelled out in a contract in blood.

 

[mikem_90]

[citation][nom]jerreece[/nom]First of all, any woman who poses for photos like the one above, performs in "softcore porn" videos and the like, should have ABSOLUTELY no claims for sexual harassment. If you're going to live the life of a skank, expect people to treat you like one. If you wish to make yourself a sexual object, don't be surprised when people treat you like one.Now, if you want to act like a mature, noble, and beautiful woman, then you can expect to be treated like a lady.This woman needs to decide who she is. A porn star, or a noble mother.[/citation]

Wow, that's totally a terrible rationale. So she somehow doesn't ever get to defend herself if she is harassed, even if she is not on stage, maybe wearing something sensible at the time?

Are men so out of control of their behavior that they can't think a second and decide "you know, this is not appropriate, even if she is wearing suggestive clothing or was in that movie where she showed off her ta-tas"? You realize this is rationale used in many countries where women are blamed for rapes, or not allowed to go out in public without their entire bodies being covered?

Does a hard core porn star somehow give up all rights to not being brutally sexually assaulted because they engaged in a porn film?

I think you need to check your bronze age morality ideas at the door. Take incidents by the details that occur, don't bias yourself with with suggestive photos or work she wasn't doing while working at HP (I SERIOUSLY doubt that was what she was doing as a contractor), and for god sakes understand that men have to be responsible for their actions.

 

[rohitbaran]

The chick in the picture is hot. Well, can't blame the CEO for anything he did to her! He is a human after all.

 

[Disposition Rate]

[citation][nom]vestin[/nom]Can I choose both ?[citation]Given "Aussie_Bear's" statement, the absolute black-and-white converse must be true![/citation]Yeah, scratch that. The thought behind it made more sense, but the words I used made it sound less than intuitive.[citation]It appears you misread and/or misinterpreted the usage of the word can in this context.[/citation]No, not really. Let me explain the thought process behind all of this. His claim was about the alleged correlation between failing to act in a way that makes you the least prone to sexual harassment suits, lack character traits helping maintain such behavior and failure on a professional level. If we assume this to be true, then "natural selection" will weed out such CEOs, while promoting the opposite behavior...Sure - my post was an exaggeration. Sure - using the word "can" helps because the world is full of possibilities.I still think one's personal (including erotic) life can not and should not be used as an argument when dealing with professional issues. Whether the guy would be a serial killer, Buddhist or a golf player - it doesn't matter.Of course - there are those who read magazines dealing with private lives of public people...[/citation]

You pose a valid argument. Impart to your follow up comment; I understand that a person's professional career in a generalized sense, should remain unbiased. However, dependent upon the action/inaction/situation etc., fundamentally there are legal ramifications for a person's conduct. To the best of my understanding, I believe that the situation is being handled in the appropriate manner. In short, The dynamics vary.

In respect to your opinion, I highly value the response you have expressed. I apologize for my initial comment as I may have offended you.

- Cheers

 

[ares1214]

Tsk Tsk no respect for the women! She may pursue a less accepted course of life, however that doesnt mean she will be a skank for he whole life, and wants/deserves to be harrased at her work place! If they were at a photoshoot, sure, maybe, even then isnt very appropriate, but at work, it is entirely unappropriate for this to happen, and if he actually stepped down for this reason, then he deserved it.

 

[azcoyote]

[citation][nom]tokenz[/nom]IMDB says she is 50years old? WTF. I wish my girlfriend looked like that at 32.[/citation]

Unless you see a date on that picture, I would not assume it is recent...

 

[mikem_90]

Probably not, but Goldie Hawn looked pretty good at 50.

 

[XZaapryca]

[citation][nom]rohitbaran[/nom]The chick in the picture is hot. Well, can't blame the CEO for anything he did to her! He is a human after all.[/citation]

No piece of tail is worth my job. They just go nuts, get all stabby, and ruin your life.

/Take me out Kobe then old school style, Tom...

 

[jsm6746]

can we get some specs and benchmarks on this plz?? i wanna know what she can do...

 

[alextheblue]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]By the way, it seems my suspicion has proved correct, that any article with the word "porn" in it has been moved from Jane McEntegart's desk to Marcus Yam's desk.[/citation]
Giggity.

 

[TemjinGold]

[citation][nom]azcoyote[/nom]Unless you see a date on that picture, I would not assume it is recent...[/citation]

That photo is definitely recent. You can't tell from the face but look at her arm and the back of her hand.

 

[mindspring]

softcore + real estate VP + under contract to work at high-level customer and executive summit events held around the country and abroad = sell a lot of HP real estate.

 

[dEAne]

why companies were sensitive on this because it happen before, and it will change the focus on its personnel.

 

[xythrax4420]

first i touched his harddrive and then he rubbed his fingers on my biometric sensor and about 5 minutes in to this he BSODed all over my touchpad.