Worst Wargames?

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> Yes, that was UMS-2, a truly slow and incomprehensible turkey. On
> machines of that time, the computer would take hours to make its moves.
> Wargame Construction Set was alright, being an SSI game, but not
> outstanding. The designer was Roger Damon. Later, Norm Koger did the
> sequels, "Tanks" and "Age of Rifles".

I loaded it up years later. I was bored, and figured it would run much
faster on a "modern" computer. I was wrong.

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In article <1105k4ql9q2ep95@corp.supernews.com>, briggs@surewest.net
says...
> Wasn't there a game by Dunnigan....War in the Pacific. By 360...
>
> I don't remember much but I am pretty sure it was awful....

He was working on a Pacific game. I don't think it was ever finished.
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In article <1107468725.613360.137810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
ryandylanr@yahoo.com says...

> Wasn't the wargame construction kit done by Norm Koger??

Not the original one, IIRC.

Koger's TANKS was released as WARGAME CONSTRUCTION SET 2: TANKS, and I
believe his AGE OF RIFLES might have had a WCS3 suffix on it. This was
a decision by the publisher, SSI, rather than Koger, SFAIK.

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 01:36:27 GMT, Epi Watkins <epicat1212@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <1105k4ql9q2ep95@corp.supernews.com>, briggs@surewest.net
>says...
>> Wasn't there a game by Dunnigan....War in the Pacific. By 360...
>>
>> I don't remember much but I am pretty sure it was awful....
>
>He was working on a Pacific game. I don't think it was ever finished.

I think the Mac version was finished, but it was so bad the PC version
was never finished. I remember reading a review of it in CGW mag. Also
recall maybe a sidebar of an interview with him where he disassociated
himself from the project?

Steve
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In my list of "why did I buy that" is GI Combat. Besides the Real Time
turn sequence, the camera controls were horrible. One instance you're
looking from an altitude of 500 ft next you're stuck in a bush.

Wayne
 
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"Giftzwerg" <giftzwerg999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> My vote is for HARPOON2. I played the original HARPOON until the little
> digital pathways on my 386 were melted from the relentless gaming. And
> the copy about H2 sounded like God Herself was descending from On High
> to transmute our gaming hell on earth into the New, True Nirvana.
>
> I almost ran home from the store with my copy, positively giddy with
> anticipation...
>
> ...which lasted precisely five minutes after I got it installed. Crash.
> Crash. Bug. Crash. Error. Bug. Crash. SYSTEM HALTED.
>
> And they never got it working right. That's a Worst Wargame.


I believe that you can now get a heavily modified version of the Harpoon 2
engine that finally works right...I seem to remember a web site that sells
it, along with improved versions of Harpoon Classic....
 
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In article <JO-dnRswgIrt3ZXfRVn-hg@comcast.com>,
ahorta@spamdie.comcast.net says...

> > ...which lasted precisely five minutes after I got it installed. Crash.
> > Crash. Bug. Crash. Error. Bug. Crash. SYSTEM HALTED.
> >
> > And they never got it working right. That's a Worst Wargame.
>
>
> I believe that you can now get a heavily modified version of the Harpoon 2
> engine that finally works right...I seem to remember a web site that sells
> it, along with improved versions of Harpoon Classic....

It's called HARPOON3, and it is pretty stable - although it's got a
whole ant-farm of bugs that were never squashed[1] and is positively
redolent of DOS programming shoehorned into a Windows/DirectX
environment. But does (finally) work, and they're pretty quick with the
new builds.

A lot of money, though, for something that's very much a "work in
progress." If you dislike paying to be a beta-tester, steer clear.


[1] For instance, the current version has a bug that won't let you page
around in the scenario list; touch a scenario name with your mouse and
ZiiiP!, it loads.

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