[SOLVED] Worth to upgrade to GTX 1080 Ti GPU from GTX 1080 for 2560 x1440p @ 144Hzs monitor?

[tkreger]

Hello,

I find that when I play some games on high graphics settings my FPS average is about 60 or less even though I do all I can to maximize it. On certain games to lower the graphics settings puts me at a competitive disadvantage so i keep them high. I had read that the 1080 Ti is worth the upgrade when you have run 2560 x 1440p AND have a monitor running at the increased refresh rate of 144Hz, which I do play at.

Specifically i was looking at a ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX 1080 TI 11GB for $750, but would consider any good/ recommended 1080Ti if I was sure it would make a difference. Would rather not spend more that $850-$900. I don't 4K.

Is it worth upgrading to the Ti?
Your thoughts / recommendations appreciated.


My System
Intel i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz
16 GB RAM
MOBO: ASUS ROG STRIX Z270F GAMING LGA1151 DDR4 DP HDMI DVI M.2 ATX
Monitor: ASUS ROG PG279Q 27" Gaming Monitor WQHD 2560 x 1440p IPS 165Hz
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0, 8GB GDDR5X, LED, DX12
1000 Watts Power Supply

 

[geckovic02]

I'm not an Intel professional, but that stock i7 is in my opinion to weak for 1440p@144hz gaming...

If you have the right cooling and the knowledge, try overclocking it.

 

[tkreger]

I'm not an Intel professional, but that stock i7 is in my opinion to weak for 1440p@144hz gaming...

If you have the right cooling and the knowledge, try overclocking it.

I'm not an Intel professional, but that stock i7 is in my opinion to weak for 1440p@144hz gaming...

If you have the right cooling and the knowledge, try overclocking it.

I thought the GPU drives the graphics to the monitor, not the CPU. Also, thought this was a fairly powerful CPU. I have OC'd but its unstable quickly and does't move the FPS.

 

[geckovic02]

I thought the GPU drives the graphics to the monitor, not the CPU. Also, thought this was a fairly powerful CPU. I have OC'd but its unstable quickly and does't move the FPS.

It is a fast cpu, but for higher resolutions, more cores/threads are more efficient than a high overclocked cpu.

Try different graphics settings on 1440p. If the performence is quite similar, then you probably have a slight cpu bottleneck.

Yes, the gpu is for the graphics, but the cpu calculates the entire physics and has also a big impact on high resolutions.

As mentioned before: im not an intel profesional, but those 4c/8t @stock are a bit weak for 2019. As 6c/12t are quite mainstream atm. (e.g. i7 8700, ryzen 5 3600 etc..)

 

[Adarduk]

The GTX 1080TI does perform better than the normal 1080. But in my opinion, it's not even close to $750 better. On average expect 10 - 20% better performance depending on the game. As an owner of both a 1080 and 1080ti I can tell you very simply that while the preforcence is better, it doesn't justify the cost.

But now take everything I said and throw it out. Because you'd be crazy to pay $750 (If you indeed upgrade) to get a 1080ti. For that money, you could easily get an RTX 2080 Super which will kick the 1080ti's kiester in every single game. 2080 Supers are going for $700-$800 New and you could opt for a used card off eBay for around $650.

Check out the link below to get an idea of how they compare in performance: ( Not 100% Accurate But gives you a good idea with tests being run on tons of games and at all sorts of settings)

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nv...7700k-4-20ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/

Check Out These Amazon, Newegg and eBay links for pricing:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+2080+super

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rtx+2080+super&crid=32LYRLXQ1N9TL&sprefix=rtx+20,aps,186&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_8_6

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=rtx+2080+super

 

[LinuxDevice]

I thought the GPU drives the graphics to the monitor, not the CPU. Also, thought this was a fairly powerful CPU. I have OC'd but its unstable quickly and does't move the FPS.

GPUs only provide frames if they have the data to work with. I use a Titan Xp, and here is some upgrade history to think about:
Used to use a Phenom II x4 with a 660Ti. Upgraded to a 1060, which was something of an improvement, but not new. Was given a Titan Xp, and performance barely changed for many uses (though massively better for CUDA). Then I upgraded the mobo and have an AMD 6600x with 6 cores. Performance went up a lot, but even with games like Star Citizen, the Titan Xp never gets pushed past about 80% use (mostly it hovers around 70% under heavy loads). When I first put in the 6600x I had not brought the RAM speed up yet (I always start without upgrades to RAM speed until the system is stable), and this resulted in Star Citizen never pushing the Titan Xp past about 50%. As soon as the RAM was clocked to its full potential (DDR4 3200 dual channel) frame rates jumped dramatically, and this is when actual GPU use went to about 80% peak. AMD CPUs are rather sensitive to data throughput based on RAM speed.

If you upgraded to an RTX2080Ti, and kept the same CPU, then you'd get more solid performance...but I doubt frame rates would go up dramatically. The same video card, if it were pushed to full use, would probably provide higher frame rates. If you were to upgrade CPU, then you could keep the same video card and probably get some frame rate improvement and decide later if you want a faster GPU.

You could probably get a better video card by going to the RTX2070 (or one of the nearby "super" variants) and pay less than going with a 1080Ti, especially for higher resolutions above 1080p. However, my guess is that if you think frame rate is driven only by the GPU that you'll be disappointed if you don't have a CPU which can feed the GPU.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

I run a 6700K OC at 4.4ghz (can go to 4.7 but don't feel like it right now)
Paired with a 1080 Ti OC'd at 2150mhz (effective clock about 2050 on average) and game at 1440p without issues in terms of frame rates at high presets in modern titles.

However, if looking to spend that kind of money on a new card, you'd be better off with a 2080 or 2080 super.

Otherwise you need to search the used market for a much cheaper deal on the 1080 Ti for it to be worth it.

However, there is one thing I'm a bit confused on, and that is how you are running a 7700k on a Z77 motherboard?

 

[Adarduk]

The GTX 1080TI does perform better than the normal 1080. But in my opinion, it's not even close to $750 better. On average expect 10 - 20% better performance depending on the game. As an owner of both a 1080 and 1080ti I can tell you very simply that while the preforcence is better, it doesn't justify the cost.

But now take everything I said and throw it out. Because you'd be crazy to pay $750 (If you indeed upgrade) to get a 1080ti. For that money, you could easily get an RTX 2080 Super which will kick the 1080ti's ass in every single game. 2080 Supers are going for $700-$800 New and you could opt for a used card off eBay for around $650.

Check out the link below to get an idea of how they compare in performance: ( Not 100% Accurate But gives you a good idea with tests being run on tons of games and at all sorts of settings)

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nv...7700k-4-20ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/

Check Out These Amazon, Newegg and eBay links for pricing:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+2080+super

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rtx+2080+super&crid=32LYRLXQ1N9TL&sprefix=rtx+20,aps,186&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_8_6

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=rtx+2080+super

Also if this wasn't obvious. If you don't need it, you could sell Your current GTX 1080 on eBay for above $300 easily. That would offset the price of a new card. you should do this regardless of what card you upgrade to.

 

[tkreger]

I run a 6700K OC at 4.4ghz (can go to 4.7 but don't feel like it right now)
Paired with a 1080 Ti OC'd at 2150mhz (effective clock about 2050 on average) and game at 1440p without issues in terms of frame rates at high presets in modern titles.

However, if looking to spend that kind of money on a new card, you'd be better off with a 2080 or 2080 super.

Otherwise you need to search the used market for a much cheaper deal on the 1080 Ti for it to be worth it.

However, there is one thing I'm a bit confused on, and that is how you are running a 7700k on a Z77 motherboard?

AH - my bad. I copied in my previous mobo. I have a:
ASUS ROG STRIX Z270F GAMING LGA1151 DDR4 DP HDMI DVI M.2 ATX