[SOLVED] Worth upgrading from 980ti to 1660ti or 2060?

[garrettk4]

Would it be worth it to upgrade to a 1660ti or 2060?

Specs
i7 6700
16gb
SSDs
Corsair 650W RMi
980ti

 

[TJ Hooker]

Graphics rendering is essentially mathematical operations. The operations are performed by digital circuits; it's not like an analog system where the result is going to vary from one product to another. These are deterministic, so if you have the same algorithm being executed with the same parameters, you will get the same results. One card may do it a little faster, or draw a little more power, or whatever due to manufacturing differences, but the final result (i.e. the image that is outputted) will be the same short of an error occurring somewhere.

What you're arguing is akin to saying that if you were to evaluate the same equation with the same variables on two different PCs you'd get different results because the CPU/motherboard circuitry is different. If believe that to be the case, I'm not sure I want to even bother trying to convince you otherwise.

Now, there may be some difference between different lineups of cards, because they use different algorithms. For instance, Nvidia uses a proprietary compression algorithm that is updated for new architectures. I would hope it would be lossless such that the original information remains unchanged, but I don't know enough about it so maybe that could result in a difference in the image between different generations (e.g. between 980 Ti and Turing cards). But the 1660 Ti and the 2060 use the same architecture, so the same algorithms*, so they should produce the same image. You seem to be saying that even one model of 2060 will produce different image quality than a different model of 2060, which is just silly.

*Except presumably for ray tracing/DLSS, hence me mentioning those as possible exceptions earlier.

 

[white.a.drew]

Graphics rendering is essentially mathematical operations. The operations are performed by digital circuits; it's not like an analog system where the result is going to vary from one product to another. These are deterministic, so if you have the same algorithm being executed with the same parameters, you will get the same results. One card may do it a little faster, or draw a little more power, or whatever due to manufacturing differences, but the final result (i.e. the image that is outputted) will be the same short of an error occurring somewhere.

What you're arguing is akin to saying that if you were to evaluate the same equation with the same variables on two different PCs you'd get different results because the CPU/motherboard circuitry is different. If believe that to be the case, I'm not sure I want to even bother trying to convince you otherwise.

Now, there may be some difference between different lineups of cards, because they use different algorithms. For instance, Nvidia uses a proprietary compression algorithm that is updated for new architectures. I would hope it would be lossless such that the original information remains unchanged, but I don't know enough about it so maybe that could result in a difference in the image between different generations (e.g. between 980 Ti and Turing cards). But the 1660 Ti and the 2060 use the same architecture, so the same algorithms*, so they should produce the same image. You seem to be saying that even one model of 2060 will produce different image quality than a different model of 2060, which is just silly.

*Except presumably for ray tracing/DLSS, hence me mentioning those as possible exceptions earlier.

You actually are some what following what im saying thank you, as far as this subject goes im done from personal experience on all three cards 2 980ti and 1660ti xc mainly only about 3hr with 2060 1660ti xc is worth the upgrade if you dont wanna spend $650 that all have to say at this point

 

[RobCrezz]

You actually are some what following what im saying thank you, as far as this subject goes im done from personal experience on all three cards 2 980ti and 1660ti xc mainly only about 3hr with 2060 1660ti xc is worth the upgrade if you dont wanna spend $650 that all have to say at this point

Its anecdotal evidence.

It sounds like you have a problem with your 980 ti system. The performance you are saying is not backed up by any benchmarks. If you go and check what the real performance is with these cards you will see they are actually very close in performance, within a few %

 

[cryoburner]

It sounds like you have a problem with your 980 ti system. The performance you are saying is not backed up by any benchmarks. If you go and check what the real performance is with these cards you will see they are actually very close in performance, within a few %

Actually, there could be some accuracy in their claim that a 1660 Ti performs significantly better in the particular rendering software that they are using. While the card shouldn't be much faster than a 980 Ti "on average", the card's architecture has changed in some significant ways that can affect performance for better or for worse, depending on the application and workload. So it might be a decent amount faster in the rendering software that they use.

Of course, I would assume that the OP is wondering about performance in general, most likely for gaming, in which case the average performance of a 1660 Ti would likely be too similar to their 980 Ti to justify it as a worthwhile upgrade.

 

[white.a.drew]

Actually, there could be some accuracy in their claim that a 1660 Ti performs significantly better in the particular rendering software that they are using. While the card shouldn't be much faster than a 980 Ti "on average", the card's architecture has changed in some significant ways that can affect performance for better or for worse, depending on the application and workload. So it might be a decent amount faster in the rendering software that they use.

Of course, I would assume that the OP is wondering about performance in general, most likely for gaming, in which case the average performance of a 1660 Ti would likely be too similar to their 980 Ti to justify it as a worthwhile upgrade.

And yes the 1660 has similarly performance rates as 980ti. I returned it for that reason but said what the h and got the 1660ti xc preformance with freescync which op wants works amazingly

 

[garrettk4]

Wow this all got out of hand.
From what I can see 1660Ti is on par w/ the 980Ti if not slightly better in some areas vs others.

I'm mainly looking to game, on ultra, 144hz, take advantage of freesync/gsync, and reduce the heat that the 980Ti puts out.

 

[RobCrezz]

Wow this all got out of hand.
From what I can see 1660Ti is on par w/ the 980Ti if not slightly better in some areas vs others.

I'm mainly looking to game, on ultra, 144hz, take advantage of freesync/gsync, and reduce the heat that the 980Ti puts out.

In the RTX line, I would go for 2070 at least to make it a noticable upgrade.