Decends :
I'd be willing to bet intel payed microsoft off to do it so that they could move more of their pathetic kaby lake processors. How else would they sell the re-branded skylake CPU's.
I'm missing something ... how does it move CPUs ? Intel, nVidia, AMD and everyone else who makes PC components doesn't come up with new silicon with each generation... they been tick-tocking since the getgo and now it's tick-tock-tweak. Nothing new here. It surprises me that every new generation there's a surge of posts filled with righteous indignation as if this was not "business as usual". Actually, there's a lot to be said about upgrading on the tock instead of the tick as the die shrink is less of a departure than the change in architecture and therefore less likely to result oin "bleeding edge" issues
If anything it will reduce CPU sales.
Market Share of Windows 7 Windows 10 = 47.17%
Market Share of Windows 10 Windows 10 = 23.72%
Market Share of Windows XP Windows XP = 8.63%
Market Share of Windows 8.1 Windows 8.1 = 8.01%
Skylake's market was 87.53% of the market ... Kaby Lake's will be less than 1/3 of that
This is just another power play by MS to force their OS down people's throat and anyone who wants the latest hardware will have to move. MS has not met their obligations with regard to all the data they are selling to their partners thru data mining PC user habits. Just like when a TV station sells ads, the amount paid to the TV station by advertisers is based upon a presumed "market penetration". If say a sports event shows signs of an early blowout and everyone turns it off at halftime... the advertisers aren't getting the views they were promised, and station has to give money back.
MS is in the same boat ... they have agreements to share data with partners (i.e. markmonitor) in which they agreed to pay xx million dollars for yy million data sets. Win 10's market penetration has come no where near what they promised to deliver... and as such, they are in quite a financial bind. They lost the OS income stream for a year in exchange for what they thought would return a big ROI ... it didn't work out.
So they went to the hard handed approach and trickery which has PO'd tons of folks who are now so annoyed that I expect many will say "Fine... my PC isn't hurting, the CPU performance increase is marginal (and has been thru 5 generations) ... I don't need a CPU, peeps out there with 2600ks are doing just fine.
MS also is also pulling another fast one pulling page out of HPs book. Ya know that new $15,000 large format CAD plotter ya just bought ... sorry no drivers when the new OS comes out, give us another $15k to solve ya problem. This is great for MS as forcing everyone to upgrade to one OS on one platform drastically cuts their support budget.
Scottray :
Just curious, why don't you want to move to Win 10?
Being a bit of a geek in a family of math and science geeks ... no nerds here tho
...i can tell ya what is most often discussed.
1.5 years after everyone was offered something for nothing Win 10's penetration has been horrendus ... look at it this way...
Approximately 80% of the PCs in use were eligible for the free upgrade. But if nobody upgraded, with peeps getting a new PC on average let's say every 4.5 years. so after 1.5 years, new PCs should account for about 26.7% of the market using Win 10. But only 23.72 actually have it. I haven't seen the data for a while... but last time I did ... about 12% of those eligible for the upgrade actually did. That means that 7 out of 8 people eligible to get something for free actually chose not to.
For many, it's the privacy issues... somethings can be turned off... some can't. For those in am production environment, or those that make money using their PC it's the fear of an forced update bricking their PC... this has happened many times... Win 10 was barely outta the gate when an update broke SLI. You could reinstall the nVidia driver and fix it, and the WU would come in behind you and undo the fix you just did. You can read about a lot of these here:
http://www.woody.info/
This is not new .. w/ Win XP SP3, it shut down 100s of engineering / architectural offices when the patch broke the AutoCAD licensing manager. So employers with tens or 100s of CAD stations had employees arriving at 8:30 am just sitting there twiddling their thumbs and getting paid while it took 2-3 days to come up with and implement a fix.
But that was their own fault.... and a few IT managers lost their jobs for installing Day 0 patches. My approach here in the office is to:
a) Read KB articles on patch Tuesday
b) Search around he web for any issues over weekend
c) Install patches I'm happy with on Monday
As for the privacy issue ... I just assume everybody is a good guy and doesn't pirate movies, TV shows, songs, etc.... but does anyone else use your PC ... visiting relatives, kids whatever ?
So then you don't mind if one of MS gives its partners like mark monitor , MPAA, RIAA information on all the sites that were visited by your PC ..
"MarkMonitor Inc. is an American software company founded in 1999. It develops software intended to protect corporate brands from Internet counterfeiting, fraud, piracy ... "
We just don't know what is being uploaded, they aren't required to tell us and there's no fact checker to determine if what they do choose to tell us is true.
The piracy issue doesn't concern me as much except for the fact that I resent the intrusion on a basic human rights level. The forced updates issue if of grave concern as I been at this for over 30 years and to my eyes, having no control over what gets installed on your PCs and when is akin to walking across a highway blindfolded.
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