Question Would you please reccomend a stable Motherboard that will work with these parts?

[Inib-nam]

I recently purchased these parts as part of a build recommended by a combination of a different forums discussion and PC parts picker.

Motherboard:Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX
CPU:AMD Ryzen 5 7600(w/ "Stealth" cooler)
GPU:Asrock Radeon 7800 XT
PSU😛P Be Quiet 850w
RAM🙁I dont know all that is relevant)
Silicon Power DDR5 32GB (2X16) Zenith 6000 MT/s PC5-48000 288-pin CL301.5v UDIMM
COOLER🙁Still Boxed) Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
CASE: Corsair 4000D Airflow

The board will not display.
I have DRAM LED on, the 2 case fans turn, the CPU fan turns. I do not know the sound a CPU makes but I have heard maybe a slight hum under the fan, and not heard it, both with the the fan running and no added or removed parts elsewhere. By some miracle I avoided all RBG foolishness, there is a whitish blue light on the GPU that turns on, I believe I saw its fans spin briefly early into this process.

I have already wasted about 20 hours trying to get this motherboard to work. I will hold my tongue about the board and its manufacturer as I am done with both.I have spent about 12 hours of that time reading about this and the AORUS 650 here, on reddit, and other places. I also watched a small amount of video.
If you were more savvy I imagine you could learn what I have about it in 10 minutes.
This motherboard is for me a nightmare hellscape of variables that I am not willing to spend months of time and hundreds to thousands of dollars to continue troubleshooting. I can see from the experience of others just how "finicky" this board is,how resource intensive it is to get working and how scary it is to change anything later including turning it off.

Im not asking for tech help with it, but for the record.

I HAVE
Correctly Q Flashed 6 BIOS versions ranging from F2 to F31. Before this I of course tested F1 which the board still ships with for some reason.
Played musical RAM slots in A2 B2 and every other configuration
Allowed RAM to train each time
Cleared CMOS battery popped, jumped, and power held 10 seconds with maybe 5-10 short presses as well.
Not cleared CMOS as well each time to try both variables
Fiddled with CPU and Cooler loosening and tightening(I wasnt really buying this but theres always some guy saying this worked, as in a single one every discussion its bizarre)

I HAVE NOT
Tried any other parts. I am aware it could be a bad memory controller for the CPU, but at this point it feels like taking an old car chassis thats going to snap in two at any moment,dumping $30k into everything but the chassis, and then taking your family for a 6 hour commute with it every day. Im supposed to be using the PC 2 weeks ago. I am quite literally stuck somewhere this winter with NOTHING to do that is even remotely engaging or entertaining, RMA process is not an option.

I want off this ride. Please help.

I am using this for 1440p gaming at the most as far as graphics. I havent had a modern PC since I bought the last one in 2009...so I honestly dont know yet what else I will use it for.
I want WIFI capability and a SPDIF port, beyond that Ive seen nothing but overkill for my usage.
I dont plan on overclocking.
RGB functionality is worthless to me.
I havent played 3D PC games released after 2006, and couldnt play the majority of the CPU intensive games I prefer released in the 2010s and 20s(GS/4X/CRPG etc) so I have plenty to keep me busy if I can just get this working Im set for another decade easily.

 

[Lafong]

You are off of Gigabyte.

That leaves Asus, MSI, and Asrock.

You can have bad luck with any of them. But I understand that you are done with Gigabyte. You might have run into a design issue, a quality control issue, or just random bad luck. It doesn't matter. You are done with Gigabyte.

You might hear or read of dozens of anecdotes......"I've had great luck with XYZ". I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to anecdotes. But of course there is no large-scale valid study comparing the candidates.


You can read reviews and try to glean what you can. Maybe not much. They aren't far removed from anecdotes....one person's experience.

I'd probably look at MSI or maybe Asrock for a board in your price range that had the features you MUST have...SPDIF, Wifi, enough M.2 ports; enough USB ports, enough fan connections, RAM support, etc. Walk down the spec sheets of the candidates.

Micro ATX boards may be OK for your use case.

I wouldn't expect that a $400 board is going to be more reliable than a $200 board.

But there's luck involved. You can't get away from that.

Find 3 or 4 that you think are plausible and tell us what you've found. Maybe (maybe not) we could then advise you on the finer points.

 

[bill001g]

Is this something that worked and then failed or is this all new stuff you purchased. The motherboard should have a warranty, how well a company honors the warranty is a large source of discussion on brands of motherboards though.

If this machine has never run if you have a local computer shop they likely will not charge much for example to put your cpu in one of their test motheboards to be sure it is good. Otherwise you take the chance of RMA and pay shipping charges when they find nothing wrong.

You will find almost every brand of motherboard vendor who has done something to get lots of bad press. Asus used to be the goto brand if you could afford the extra costs but lately they have warranty issues, ship with major bios flaws and other deceptive practices.

As mentioned above you only really have 4 major brands and then you have all the strange brands you can get direct shipped from china.

 

[SkyNetRising]

I want off this ride. Please help.

Try with discrete graphics card physically removed from system (using integrated graphics) and
with single ram module in slot A2.

 

[Inib-nam]

Try with discrete graphics card physically removed from system (using integrated graphics) and
with single ram module in slot A2.

I have done both of these and far far more, you can try out a lot of things in the now 10+ hours I have wasted hands on with this,
separately from the now 15+ Ive wasted researching it.
I am done with these two boards, because what is considered normal for them as documented extensively elsewhere is what I consider worse than non functioning, they are a trap. These two 650 boards are finicky and unstable and a terrible investment in the future.

Is...

All new parts, allegedly. There was a "computer guy" out here a decade ago who was in a little shack that looked like an episode of hoarders inside. I was not impressed with his level of knowledge and attitude. He could well be dead now. Bought from Amazon and still in 30 day window for 2 weeks so in theory it should be easily refundable.

You are off of Gigabyte.

Indeed. I am aware of the other brand names.

I appreciate the responses, but the focus is finding a relatively stable board that will work with the Ryzen 5 7600 and Radeon 7800 XT, something which someone will know by now.
I dont get overwhelmed with "feelings" from anecdotes or hearsay especially from those with one line comments and emojis that litter the internet, when you look up these specific two boards their regular functioning is a nightmare. People who know what they are doing are describing in excruciating detail the process they have gone through with these.

A common theme:
3 months to get one working. 5-30 hours hands on troubleshoot. Buying a second CPU, MOBO, RAM Roulette.
RMA with manufacturer.
Does not reset. Cant be turned off without SOME issue, commonly q flashing.
Im not copy pasting a single comment from somewhere, an anecdote, a nasty shill comment. I am condensing thousands of posts and comments into a few sentences for everyones sanity, Im barely scratching the surface just referencing broad issues. Everywhere I see these two boards discussed I see wailing and gnashing of teeth from beginning to end. I dont even see people teasing about it "just working" or "works on my machine", granted youll see more people with issues then ones chugging along, that does not eliminate the overabundance of issues these boards have.

I am not having a scary voodoo box in my room that I wont even update a driver on if I wanted that I would have bought one of the atrocious prebuilts I see recommended on certain websites...

What motherboard is relatively stable and easy to use when combined with

AMD Ryzen 5 7600
AMD Radeon 7800 XT

 

[Ralston18]

This:

"RAM : I 🙁 dont know all that is relevant)"

You must know. Installed RAM must be supported by the motherboard.

Will not wail and gnash teeth here - I suggest a different approach:

Start with the motherboard and read all applicable specifications and documentation with respect to the supported components.

Include reading the QVL (Qualified Vendors List) usually found on the motherboard's manufacturer's website.

Then read the applicable motherboard's User Guide/Manual and pay close attention to all fine print, caveats, warnings notes, configuration settings, etc..

Do the same for each component you plan to install.

Read carefully, plan the build, doublecheck everything. Take your time, be methodical, clean, neat well-lit workspace, stop and resolve any encountered problems, do not work when tired or stressed.

Remember: Details matter.

For example, @SkyNetRising mentioned Slot A2 in Post #4.

Some motherboards require that the first physically installed RAM be placed in DIMMA2.

Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX

This motherboard?

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileL...1101_e.pdf?v=90178938af27826480a5e99026d17d3c

See Paragraph 2-4, Page 15.

Pages 8 -11 provide a listing of supported components including many relevant notes at the bottom of each page.

And links to even more information: e.g., on the bottom of Page 12.

All too easy to miss some important requirement or otherwise make some error of omission or commission.

Just my thoughts about it all.

 

[Inib-nam]

This:

I was referring to the word salad I posted and how much of that is or isnt relevent for a still theoretical and unnamed different motherboard that is not the Gigabyte 650 series.

I already mentioned the RAM swapping more than once in this thread and A2/B2 specifically(there is far more to it then that). .
I wont count since the posts are not being comprehended anyways.

There is no QVL for Gigabyte 650 Eagle AX or the Gigabyte 650 AORUS, I went through this already 2 weeks ago. They are also horribly inaccurate and many parts in them dont work with the product no matter what anyone claims. I saw a different example of this with GB itself which was just embarassing when you read about it(or not if youre conditioned to this Wuhan Magic brave new world of PC building).
Gigabyte only takes you to the product page trying to push more of them, and 90% of searches about the Eagle bring up results forthe Aorus, lucky they are so similar in their poor function.
Again, another reason I am done with this board and its manufacturer because of this sort of incompetence. It is irrelevant if a QVL does exist in some dark recess of the internet, it cannot be found on GBs own website or from search engines. I am tired of paying for incompetence.

This site owes me nothing, I understand that. It is dissappointing and discouraging to see these responses from the only semi respectable place I knew of to ask. When multiple moderators who have been here for ages give responses that ignore the comments and the entire purpose of the thread I dont see how there is much hope for a valuable answer.

Its as if there some kind of Stockholm effect from people using this site for free tech support and leaving for so many years that causes these generic "did you turn it off and on" responses.
I wasnt asking for troubleshooting and now I know I know much more about these boards than those responding, people telling me to do things I already typed out that I had done in this thread means my posts arent being read.

Is there anyone reading this thread who has knowledge of a motherboard that is relatively stable and easy to use with

CPU:AMD Ryzen 5 7600
GPU:AMD RADEON 7800 XT
DDR5 RAM please

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

the focus is finding a relatively stable board that will work with the Ryzen 5 7600 and Radeon 7800 XT

GPU support;
any PCIe 4.0 x16 slot will allow the RX 7800 XT to run as intended.
the board in question does not matter in regards to if it will work or not,
only if it can offer required speeds for max performance.

CPU support;
find a board you like and read their QVL support list for CPUs.
they will lead you to determining if a BIOS update will be necessary or if the board will come ready to go for your CPU.

the AsRock Taichi series are some of the highest quality available and proven to be very "stable" for all chipsets.

AsRock has proven to be the best overall available board manufacturer for the recent past in my experience.
Gigabyte seems to skimp a bit in their manufacturer processes.
ASUS lately uses very finicky software while still providing higher quality materials.
MSI still seems to offer decent quality, but not as popular with higher-end system builders it seems these days.

There is no QVL for Gigabyte 650 Eagle AX

you must not understand how to navigate a manufacturer product page,
and/or you don't understand how a QVL actually works.

this is for your particular board:
B650 Eagle AX RAM support list

these individually listed kits have been verified by the manufacturer to work with this product.
any user claiming they did not will be investigated by the manufacturer and removed from the list, that is how they are compiled.

if you are using unsupported components it can very well lead to the issue(s) you are facing.

PSU: Be Quiet 850w

you also don't provide the actual model of this power supply.

there are units from be quiet! not intended for heavy dedicated GPU use and cannot properly power a system using one.

it's also likely that there is no "display" because the GPU just cannot run properly if you are using one of their lower end models.

 

[bill001g]

In this case if you were to assume the motherboard is bad your new problem is you now must find a new motherboard that is compatible with the parts you already own. It tends to be easier to work the other way when you start with the motherboard first. The QVL lists are huge and they are not really designed to search motherboards that are compatible with a certain kind of memory.

Although the motherboard can be the issue with memory it is not as common as when there were memory controllers on the motherboard. Almost all this function is now on the CPU die.

It would be more the motherboard can not provide good enough power or maybe there is some issue with the trace length between the cpu and the memory that is incompatible. The much more common issue with a motherboard and memory is damage to the cpu socket.

In general we are well past the early days of DDR5 memory. Almost all brands will run at the base clock speeds and most run at the 6000 speed that is the most popular overclocked speed. The QVL lists tend to not be updated much after say 6 months anyway.

This means your cpu and memory really should have no issues in any motherboard. The question more would be is did you just get unlucky and there is a manufacturing defect in your particular motherboard or if you were to buy a identical one you would have the same issue because of incompatibly of the memory in some way.

I am going to suspect you just got unlucky and that can happen with any brand of motherboard.