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Gandalf Parker wrote:
> Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote in news:Misc-
> DAE0B6.10213506022005@individual.net:
>
> > And I'm really less-interested in this guy's particular case and
more
> > interested in the general case: is the policy that if someone
complains
> > about profanity they'll investigate logs & maybe take action, or is
it
> > that Blizz/GMs have some sort of automated tool that rings a bell
and
> > flashes lights when people swear, prompting investigation &
possibly
> > action? Or is it something else?
>
> Generally the rule for online worlds is that automatic finds are
handled
> automatically. Human reported is handled by humans. Many games have a
quick
> easy "reporting" button which automatically "rings a bell" as you put
it,
> and gives the location of the complaint.
>
> Also, its generally the rule that even though the Terms of Service
might
> refer to swearing as if ANY occurance is a violation it tends to be
handled
> in levels. Private conversations are rarely managed. Public places
such as
> around gathering spots, and definetly public channels, get more
immeadiate
> attention.
>
> Gandalf Parker


I don't think cursing in WOW is bad at all. If your talking 2 someone
in a private chat than if they don't care, blizz is not going 2 care
either.
~Richard Rahl

 

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shadows wrote:
> My "hate" is only fueled by the fanboys here who won't admit
> they're getting bad service.

But the fact of the matter is that I, personally, am NOT
getting bad service. My server has excellent up-time
and no queues. I do feel sorry for the people who are
on the over-crowded servers, and for their sake I'm really
looking forward to the day when they can migrate their
characters to less crowded climes.

And in the meanwhile I salute you for bowing out and
making the load that much less on whatever server you
were on that was clearly over-crowded.

--
Nathan Engle Computer Support, IUB Psych Dept
nengle@indiana.edu http://mypage.iu.edu/~nengle
"Some Assembly Required"

 

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In article <110jn5kh37use91@news.supernews.com>,
"Bob Perez" <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:

> "Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote in message
> news:Misc-4817F7.11092107022005@individual.net...
> >> Blizard does not automatically scan logs looking for offense, that's just
> >> prohibitively costly and time consuming.

> > It's ok to say "I don't know", if that's the correct answer. 😉
>
> It's also ok to say "Please don't bother offering any opinion or answer on
> this topic unless you have specific knowledge", if that's the only thing of
> interest. ;-)

Touche!

> And if that's the case, let me suggest the definitive answer
> isn't likely to come to you on Usenet. Try the Blizzard forums. I wouldn't
> be surprised to see a response there from someone in a position to know the
> answer.

Ah, good point; thanks. There's a lot of forum, out there -- I was
mostly hoping that someone might have read it from a GM, and be able to
pass along what they had read.

And "no offense", above -- I was mostly just razzing you for stating an
opinion/guess in an authoritative tone ("Blizard does not automatically
scan logs looking for offense").

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shadows wrote:
> When I lived in the US Bank of America apologized, fixed, and
> sent me a new card the very next day when I complained that an
> ATM machine ate my card.

you're of the worst kind of customer. First you repeatedly use your
stupidly low IQ to ruin the service you're paying for in spite of all
recommendations, then you complain endlessly to the service provider
and beyond.

 

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In article <slrnd0i5e3.ps3.shadows@helena.whitefang.com>,
shadows@whitefang.com says...
> On 2005-02-08, Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnd0gpgd.pns.shadows@helena.whitefang.com>,
> > shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Feel free to continue to believe that Blizzard is doing
> >> fine. As I mention over and over even Blizzard admits they
> >> screwed up.
> >
> > These two things are not mutually exclusive.
> >
> > Nobody denies that mistakes have been made.
> >
> > You seem in contention with those who maintain that, despite these
> > mistakes, Blizzard is doing fine.
>
> Despite the fact that most people can barely log in most of the
> time, and the fact that entire guilds were wiped and forced to
> fragment onto several servers, Blizzard is doing a fantastic job.

ROFLMAO! Talk about hyperbole and bullshit, this statement of yours fits
both to a 'T'.

You lost the bloody argument ages ago, "shadows" so just give it up and
get on with your life.

--
Rob Berryhill

 

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RJB <robartle@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:12:33 GMT, shadows wrote:
> > Now before I thank you for your words of enlightenment, let me
> > ask you something. Why did DAoC and CoH have an almost pristine
> > launch? Oh yeah, that's right, because people complained about
> > the other MMOs and the developers for both those games decided
> > that it's in their interest to leave a good impression with a
> > smooth launch.
> Please don't thank me. I'm an amateur, if I was a pro I'd send you a bill.
> Let me ask you something. Did Mythic or NCSoft have at least 200,000
> subscribers log on during the first week? I don't think either one can
> count that many subscribers even now.

DAoC has (unless WoW has hit them hard) over 200k subscribers:
http://www.mythicentertainment.com/press/gamewire_oct_22_2004.html

But not in the first week. They had 100k after three weeks:
http://www.mythicentertainment.com/press/camnum1pr.html

I'm not sure if City of Heroes has reached 200k yet, but I'd expect
they have - they had 180k before it was released in Europe. Again,
though, I doubt they were anywhere near that in the first week.

 

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Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote in news:Misc-
DAE0B6.10213506022005@individual.net:

> And I'm really less-interested in this guy's particular case and more
> interested in the general case: is the policy that if someone complains
> about profanity they'll investigate logs & maybe take action, or is it
> that Blizz/GMs have some sort of automated tool that rings a bell and
> flashes lights when people swear, prompting investigation & possibly
> action? Or is it something else?

Generally the rule for online worlds is that automatic finds are handled
automatically. Human reported is handled by humans. Many games have a quick
easy "reporting" button which automatically "rings a bell" as you put it,
and gives the location of the complaint.

Also, its generally the rule that even though the Terms of Service might
refer to swearing as if ANY occurance is a violation it tends to be handled
in levels. Private conversations are rarely managed. Public places such as
around gathering spots, and definetly public channels, get more immeadiate
attention.

Gandalf Parker

 

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In article <Xns95F8402E4336gandalfparker@208.201.224.154>,
Gandalf Parker <gandalf@most.of.my.favorite.sites> wrote:

> Also, its generally the rule that even though the Terms of Service might
> refer to swearing as if ANY occurance is a violation it tends to be handled
> in levels. Private conversations are rarely managed. Public places such as
> around gathering spots, and definetly public channels, get more immeadiate
> attention.

Yeah, that's what makes sense, and I agree it's the general rule -- I
was just curious if anyone had any specific information about
WoW/Blizzard. It sounds as if they have a few noob-GMs who are a bit
hot to "handle things themselves."

(Tangentially anecdotal: I had a GM ticket answered in game (no, really!
😉 by a giggley kid the other day. They were sort-of helpful, after I
had to explain everything 3x in minute detail, but it was disconcerting
that every /tell from them included the actual text "tee-hee".)

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On 2005-02-09, Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnd0igl3.rek.shadows@helena.whitefang.com>,
> shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> wrote:

> Exactly! It's absurd, isn't it? And, yet, that's exactly the logic
> YOU'VE been using, since the start!
>
> Blizzard at least has the decency to apologize -- get THAT level of
> service from your ATM provider (who *STILL* can't provide a decent level
> of service, after a decade or more of running...)
>

Again, tell me where in the world you're getting this kind of
service from a Bank?

When I lived in the US Bank of America apologized, fixed, and
sent me a new card the very next day when I complained that an
ATM machine ate my card.

Here in Toronto I've only had to complain once and they brought
me into the managers office, apologized to me, and offered me
some additional financial services for free.

Banks are very good at keeping you happy unless you're a dead
beat with a negative balance.

WoW has tried the same but their issues continue into month 2 of
their release. I'm not telling you to quit the game. That's your
decision. I'm a bit preplexed that you defend them the way you do
even when they apologize in interviews and come up with idiotic
schemes like login queues. Tell me, what other MMO has queues on
their servers? None.

Maybe we should talk about their in-house closed-source bit
torrent client that barely works for most people. Their response
to that? "Go to fileplanet and get the patches there."

It's horrible service. Today SOE preloaded one file of their
upcoming patch for next week. Everytime I log into SWG I get one
or two files which are "ready" and will be unlocked upon the
release of their next patch. Every MMO on the planet has figured
out how to deal with a large customer base except Blizzard. This
is after their Battlenet problems too.

 

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In article <slrnd0kif9.te5.shadows@helena.whitefang.com>,
shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> wrote:

> On 2005-02-09, Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnd0igl3.rek.shadows@helena.whitefang.com>,
> > shadows <shadows@whitefang.com> wrote:
>
> > Exactly! It's absurd, isn't it? And, yet, that's exactly the logic
> > YOU'VE been using, since the start!
> >
> > Blizzard at least has the decency to apologize -- get THAT level of
> > service from your ATM provider (who *STILL* can't provide a decent level
> > of service, after a decade or more of running...)

> Again, tell me where in the world you're getting this kind of
> service from a Bank?
>
> When I lived in the US Bank of America apologized, fixed, and
> sent me a new card the very next day when I complained that an
> ATM machine ate my card.

....And when I logged on to World Of Warcraft, it worked like a charm.

"Quit being such an ATM-fanboy, and just admit that you're wrong."

That's what you keep demanding of others, here -- and it sounds every
bit as ridiculous when you do it.

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"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@*your-shoes*PlayNaked.com> wrote in message
news:Misc-DAE0B6.10213506022005@individual.net...
> In article <uI8Nd.24345$Ck1.2046607@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> "Grackle" <nowhere@lalaland.ca> wrote:
>
>> > ...Do we suspect that, one of these days, I'm going to get a nasty-gram
>> > from some over-exuberant GM? Or is their general philosophy "if nobody
>> > complains, then there's no foul"?
>
>> WoW has filters that will convert any common swear words to a bunch of
>> #$@$.
>
> Right. In the client. What I mean is: do we suspect that Blizz or the
> GMs have some tool that points out unfiltered profanity (it's a pref, I
> have it off), and alerts a GM to go harsh on the guy? If so, what do we
> suspect the GM guidelines are (and from whence came that information)?
>
> I guess what I'm getting at is (and I apologize if this was covered, but
> I didn't read all 1000+ posts in this silly thread!): how did a GM find
> out this guy said "pussy" in the first place?
>

And what if you have a friend named Dick, and he has a cat he refers to as
his Pussy. What if you want to explain online how much Dick loves Pussy?
What will happen to you then, huh?

 

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> What if you want to explain online how much Dick loves Pussy?

And then Dick said to Pussy, come get some delicious cream.

Mreow.

C//

 

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On 2005-02-11, Grackle <nowhere@lalaland.ca> wrote:

> And what if you have a friend named Dick, and he has a cat he refers to as
> his Pussy. What if you want to explain online how much Dick loves Pussy?
> What will happen to you then, huh?

In SWG a character called "Mary Jane" had her name changed by a
GM because according to him it is a "drug reference." Due to the
way SWG is setup if your name changes all your structures are no
longer yours. Any permissions on structures will then reference
the next person to use your name.

The poor person was a wreck for a few days watching another
person use all her stuff while she appealed. Eventually
everything was fixed. I think that GM probably got in a bit of
trouble too since as anyone can see the name change was silly.

 

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"Courageous" <dontwant@spam.com> wrote in message
news:j16o0152be4rbl4beckjf26f1hmpmf5fho@4ax.com...
>
>> What if you want to explain online how much Dick loves Pussy?
>
> And then Dick said to Pussy, come get some delicious cream.
>
> Mreow.
>
> C//

All perfectly innocent, expect for people with filthy minds.