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At the moment Intel platforms are offering proven performance. Yes LGA775 will "die" at the end of 2008, however lots of processors will come out between now and then.

Core 2 is faster clock for clock than any K8 (X2's) out there.

If you do not want to overclock I would suggest an AMD solution. You are banking on AMD coming up with a good B3 solution and to fulfill it's promises (which it hasn't been doing lately) for socket compatibility by going AM2+.

At the moment I consider Intel a better choice. An E21x0 series should play most games just fine, and even with mild overclocking achievable on the stock heat sink blow anything AMD has in that price bracket out of the water.

Good luck with whichever you choose.
 
This would be hella better:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3441555&sku=S458-1288
with
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3241565&CatId=2851

or you could get this with that mobo and a better cpu e2180 clocks to 3.3 easy with stock cooling
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3524058&CatId=3446
add your graphics card of your choice and reuse your DVD and HDDs for Cheaper then any AMD. And this rig will overclock to 3.0 like know ones buisness. And it would be almost 20-35% faster then AMDs top of the line x2.

The choice is yours. Intel is on top now with processors you can actually buy and see. Amd has yet to come through. And if they ever get new technology working, just because they sday the current boards will work don't mean diddly crap. How the hell do they know? They don't even have a test chip. They say what they got to to keep investors from bailing.

I hope you do buy the AMD since you are so ignorant, after all as long as AMD is alive we can enjoy cheap Intels.
 
Wow, i am not the person being ignorant. All the people trying to sway me towards intel are ignorant. They can't seem to understand that maybe someone else does not want an intel processor. Intel might be the best now yes, but what is wrong with me wanting AMD ? I like Chevy and yes Chevy is lightyears better than any ford made, but am i going to sway you into buying a camaro if you like a mustang? NO!
 
There is obviously no reason to continue this thread, because the topic has strayed far from what it is into yet another bashing thread. I'll go elsewhere to seek help. Thank you to everyone who did ACTUALLY help me though.
 


Funny you claim a bunch of people to be ignorant.

UT3 Benchmarks

E4500 $125

5600+ $149

Buy what you want, but don't call us ignorant because we want to answer your question or even offer you another option. In all honesty ANYTHING you get will be an improvement over the Netburst Architecture.

Clock for Clock Comparison in UT3

Call us ignorant fanboys. I hope for your sake, and all of us really, that the B3 is all we are expecting. At this point though I'm not expecting huge improvements in IPC, just thermals and bugs. I'm just hoping 45nm goes better for AMD.

I also hope the promise that the AM3 CPUs will work in AM2+ boards will hold true. Good luck on that.
 


Very Simply, your question alone showed a complete lack of understanding of processors or the ability to perform independent research and analysis. It's not that hard to checkout preformance reviews at THG, AnandTech, XBITLabs, etc.....

Therefore, the intelligent responders decided to try and educate you.

If you had stated that you knew AMD was slower and actually more expensive but you wanted to purchase the inferiour system, we could have provided you help in that manner.

Instead, the only information you provided us with your question was your lack of knowledge of processors and research capability.
 



What he said.
 
I have heavily weighed the intel option, I have another thread that says 650 dollars worth of upgrades, which guided me to all my other purchases except the cpu and motherboard. I just do not want intel, i am not an amd fanboy. If anything I am an ATI fanboy. I am following a build pattern intel amd intel amd. I only have 200 to spend on both motherboard and cpu maybe even less than that amount.
 


If you are dead set on an Intel, AMD, Intel, AMD build patter than I would call you the ignorant one. That is my opinion. However, your best bet would be (since you are dead set on AMD) what you already stated. A 3600+ and a cheap motherboard to hold you over for now.

I buy systems based on performance and price/performance. Right now the leaders (in my opinion) are Intel and ATi at almost all price points.

If you want an AMD I would get a Windsor core. Something like a 3800+ at 2.0 GHz. This should be good enough for now and would have some OCing head room.
 
I dont know which is more silly.

1. Being a fanboy of a company

2. Switching back and forth between 2 companies just for the heck of it. With out any regard to price/peformance.

3. Comparing two x86 cpus to a camero vs mustang.



 


You do realize that the good "AM2+" mobos generally run $200 themselves.
The ones that support support the Quad-SLI.

The less expensive so-called "AM2+ boards on NewEgg are not really AM2+, have a single PCIE-x 16 slot, etc...
Most likely you will need to upgrade your Motherboard again when you upgrade your CPU.

Quad-CF or just CF is nice with the ATI chips since they seem to scale better than NVIDIA, even though straight up they are slower.

If you get a Non-CF AM2+ board, you are really going to be limiting yourself severly with the ATI boards.
 
Well for $200 you can get case, mobo, e2180, xtra crap pwr supply since you already have one.
Add your Ram, your 8800gt, Hdds, and DvD and you got the complete deal.

I realize you may have thought you need a 6750 or 6850 but overclocked the e2180 out performs them both at their stock speeds. I since you thought it was out of your budget. Now that you have been educated you can see you can easily be on top of the world well within your budget.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3524058&CatId=3446

$159.00 plus shipping add your parts and you got your self one bad ass rig overclocked of course.
 


I would pick the AMD motherboard.. but to be fair that Intel processor would beat the AMD even at stock speeds.
 
Just help the guy pick out what he wants. Pass along your advice and leave it at that. Is the world gonna come to an end if he does not buy what everyone else wants him to buy? Why are there so many (not fanboys) but (CONTROL FREAKS) that need to push their own agenda. He heard what people had to say about AMD and Intell. He knows what is out there so if he wants AMD so be it.

Dude if you stick with an AMD system for goodness sake get a better cpu than a X2 3600+ and go for one of the lower wattage chips. If he is not going to over clock he should be fine with a X2 5200+ 65W version.

 


Yes the intell will be much faster if he over clocks but those chips will be fairly equal at stock. If I were building a new system now I would get a low end Intell cpu probably the E2180 since it has a 10X multiplier.
 
Here is a comparison i did.
Red is my e2180 at 3.34
Green is the x2 4400
Orange is the core2 extreme 6800
Purple is the x2 6400

as you can see my e2180 is 47% faster in the first test and 38% faster in the second. The image is kinda small crappy photo service i can do better when I get login email from imageshack.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/roadrunner197069/AMDpown.jpg

Both your examples are the same price but we see which one is almot twice as fast 47% to be exact.
For the budget minded non fanboy why would you not get the best bang for your buck.

If you scared to OC I'll walk you through it on skype or something.
 


The problem is I don't know what question he has asked?
I supposed his asked if the X2 3600+ was "fast enough".

Fast enough for what? To do what? What level of performance is acceptable?

Sort of like asking, "I'm thinking of buying a Toyota Prius. Will I find the engine powerful enough for what I want?"
 


Wow, that was like such a thoughtful response. Must have taken a while to ponder that one up eh?!
 
I'm concerned that it is fast enough for Counter Strike: Source. Source is the most demanding game I have. My current p4 an 9800pro aren't up to the task, providing me 30fps with everything on low an 1024. Normally, I play on 1024 or 800X600 for crosshair reasons. Another demanding game that I am likely to play in the future is Guild Wars 2. I do some photoshop work, but not a lot, more for my own enjoyment. I don't use my computer for DVD's or a home theatre, so really like I said it just has to be powerful enough for Source, TF2, and maybe Guild wars 2
 
Well either one would work but why not get the better since price is identicle. That way when you decide to play something better you wont be back here asking is a core 2 duo better then a x2 3200.
 
Yes the 3600+ will be a noticable increase in performance over what you currently are using!

But note consider getting a 3800+ or maybe a 4000+!

Also man just ignore the people that are acting like kid's they cant help it.
 
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