Question X99-UD4 and secure boot?

[Kakis]

I have an X99-UD4 mobo I can buy a TPM 2.0 module, but secure boot is unsuported and I cant find it in the BIOS, I have F24c version. Is it possible to get it in a future bios update?

 

[USAFRet]

I have an X99-UD4 mobo I can buy a TPM 2.0 module, but secure boot is unsuported and I cant find it in the BIOS, I have F24c version. Is it possible to get it in a future bios update?

Is this for an eventual possible 'upgrade' to Win 11?

What CPU do you have? Is it on the supported list?

Wait until the thing is actually released later this year.
Then worry about changes to your hardware, for what is essentially Win 10 SP1.

 

[Colif]

according to bios manual, it should be on the BIOS features tab in advanced view, will need to scroll down as it doesn't show on 1st page

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-x99-ud4_e.pdf

see page 55

 

[Kakis]

Is this for an eventual possible 'upgrade' to Win 11?

What CPU do you have? Is it on the supported list?

Wait until the thing is actually released later this year.
Then worry about changes to your hardware, for what is essentially Win 10 SP1.

Yes thats why I posted my question on the Win 11 category. I have an i7-5820K It's not in the compatibility list here https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...equirements#windows-client-edition-processors list but it's not for any version of WIndows even 7 (I use 10 21H1) which i find funny. I'm sure some requirements may not be accurate or may change. For sure it's like 10 SP1 😛

 

[mdd1963]

Anything X99 would be certainly be prior to 8th generation, so, possibly not adequate levels of support CPU-wise......

 

[Kakis]

according to bios manual, it should be on the BIOS features tab in advanced view, will need to scroll down as it doesn't show on 1st page

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-x99-ud4_e.pdf

see page 55

Thanx,I needed to enable Windows 8/10 features and disable CSM to see the secure boot option and after that windows didn't boot so I had to re-enable CSM

 

[Colif]

i7-5820K

Intel K processors don't have support for TPM until skylake (6th gen).

Intel calls its firmware-based TPM iPPT (Intel Platform Protection Technology), and AMD calls its own fTPM (Firmware Trusted Platform Module). Generally speaking, iPPT shows up in most Haswell (4th-gen Core) CPUs, although the K-series gaming models inexplicably fail to get iPPT until Skylake (6th-gen Core). On the AMD side, we see fTPM show up with Ryzen 2500 and up.

Here’s what you’ll need to upgrade to Windows 11

The TPM requirement has many Windows 10 users worried—often unnecessarily.

arstechnica.com

Thanx,I needed to enable Windows 8/10 features and disable CSM to see the secure boot option and after that windows didn't boot so I had to re-enable CSM

If the only thing stopping you getting win 11 was the boot method that would be an easy fix. But unless Microsoft remove restrictions, your CPU might stop the upgrade anyway and I wouldn't bother changing boot methods until next reinstall of win 10.

 

[Kakis]

Intel K processors don't have support for TPM until skylake (6th gen).

My mobo has TPM 2.0 module support so I guess hardware tpm would work

 

[Colif]

have you run test? is it saying tpm is reason you don't pass?

hate to buy a chip and find it still knocks you back for CPU as well.

 

[Kakis]

The test said that my PC doesn't support Secure boot. It does but I can't enable it, I have to format my drive as I am told. but I guess the next in line would be TPM. the module costed 12.90€ two days ago but now there is no stock anywhere 😛. I won't install Win 11 asap ill wait enough time first. I'm just curious

 

[Colif]

once things settle I am going to have to write an faq or something

turning on secure boot isn't always a simple step.
If you running legacy boot, you can convert the hdd to GPT and turn CSM off in bios, or just do a clean install as GPT.

i wouldn't do either now, if you going to clean install might as well wait for win 11 to come out and do it then. Need to confirm the TPM is enough, waste of time paying scalpers silly amounts of cash to find it still doesn't help. Need youtube video channels to confirm putting tpm into a PC where the cpu isn't compliant passes.

 

[Kakis]

once things settle I am going to have to write an faq or something
[...] confirm putting tpm into a PC where the cpu isn't compliant passes.

Totally agree

 

[jparnell8839]

Thanx,I needed to enable Windows 8/10 features and disable CSM to see the secure boot option and after that windows didn't boot so I had to re-enable CSM

I have the i7-5820K as well, and just had to go through all these headaches. I have the Gigabyte X99-SLI-SC motherboard. Before you disable CSM, you'll have to convert it from a MBR disk to a GPT disk. I used this guide to assist, but the TL;DR is:

1. Open Disk Management, right click your disk, and go to properties. Verify on Volumes tab that the Partition Style is MBR. If it's GPT, this isn't relevant to you.
2. If it IS MBR, open CMD as admin, run the following commands:
   1. mbr2gpt /validate /allowfullos
   2. mbr2gpt /convert /allowfullos
3. Reboot into BIOS settings, disable CSM. Reboot back to BIOS settings, enable Secure Boot (and, at least in my case, assign OEM default keys)

That should be it. After that, when I ran Windows Update (I'm already on Insider builds), it started downloading and let me know that it was proceeding past that initial "Your PC isn't supported!" window. I haven't upgraded yet, as the Windows PC Health app still says my CPU isn't supported, but the status is "Installing, 40%" so I'll follow up shortly.

 

[Kakis]

I have the i7-5820K [...] (I'm already on Insider builds), it started downloading and let me know that it was proceeding past that initial "Your PC isn't supported!" window. I haven't upgraded yet, as the Windows PC Health app still says my CPU isn't supported, but the status is "Installing, 40%" so I'll follow up shortly.

Thanx for the info, If I had a second PC I might try the insider build but for my main PC? Nah. I hope it will be like a good upgrade and not confirm the MS OS every secon rule. Do you have a TPM module?

 

[USAFRet]

I have the i7-5820K as well

That CPU is 3 generations older than what is (currently) allowed.
Trying this today, that CPU will fail. TPM or no.

 

[Kakis]

That CPU is 3 generations older than what is (currently) allowed.
Trying this today, that CPU will fail. TPM or no.

I know the MS compatibility list for CPUs is at least inaccurate. 5820K isn't in any supported list going way back to WIn 7, so I don't even know

 

[swapan03]

TPM Clarification about X99

 

[Kakis]

TPM Clarification about X99

Thanx for the reply, too bad there is almost no stock of it and its like 10 times more expensive since Win 11 were announced. Probably I ll get Windows 11 on my next build , whenever the GPU prices are normal again

 

[Tuan Tech]

Hello, someone success to plug in a TPM module to a Gigabyte X99 and install Win 11 ?
Here's the official TPM for X99 : https://www.gigabyte.com/fr/Motherboard/GC-TPM20/sp#sp
On user mode pdf, on page 34, the TPM header has 20 pins. It seem that this model (20 pins) of TPM is good : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B09HZSHCZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2CPL416F841Q9&th=1

 

[Kakis]

Hello, someone success to plug in a TPM module to a Gigabyte X99 and install Win 11 ?
Here's the official TPM for X99 : https://www.gigabyte.com/fr/Motherboard/GC-TPM20/sp#sp
On user mode pdf, on page 34, the TPM header has 20 pins. It seem that this model (20 pins) of TPM is good : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B09HZSHCZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2CPL416F841Q9&th=1

Why would someone get the non official tpm? The offcial costs like 14€ at least in my country now

 

[Tuan Tech]

Why would someone get the non official tpm? The offcial costs like 14€ at least in my country now

They don't sell it on official site. How do you buy the official one ( GC TPM 2.0 Infineon SLB9665TT2.0 FW5.51 ) ?

 

[Kakis]

They don't sell it on official site. How do you buy the official one ( GC TPM 2.0 Infineon SLB9665TT2.0 FW5.51 ) ?

They sell it stores in my city, If you can't finb it in your country sure https://www.skroutz.gr/s/28132497/Gigabyte-Accessory-GC-TPM2-0-TPM.html

 

[Tuan Tech]

They sell it stores in my city, If you can't finb it in your country sure https://www.skroutz.gr/s/28132497/Gigabyte-Accessory-GC-TPM2-0-TPM.html

Nice for you, i don't have that chance. I may try with the generic one on Amazon, hic...

 

[Kakis]

Nice for you, i don't have that chance. I may try with the generic one on Amazon, hic...

Well tbh I don't see much value of going to Win 11 after seeing how it works. I'll probably switch to it with a new build.

 

[Tuan Tech]

Hi, i success to migrate to Windows 11. My PC : Gigabyte X99-UD4 with BIOS version F22, CPU i-5820K (5th generation Intel Core), Windows 10 Pro. I can not migrate to Windows 11 because of : TPM 2.0 missing, Secure Boot missing, unsupported processor.
Here's step by step what i did to migrate :

• Buy TPM 2.0 20 pins, a generic one on amazon:
• Check that my disk is already GPT and not MBR :
• Ensure that in BIOS : CSM option is disable, Windows 8/10 option is enable, Boot on UEFI (all these 3 options are in BIOS features tab)
• Put the TPM module to motherboad. After that, there's automatically an option to activate or not TPM on BIOS. It's in Peripherals tab. By default, it's already activated, so nothing to do in the BIOS at this step.
• Enable Secure Boot, here . For my motherboard, the Secure Boot option is at the last line of tab BIOS features. It's a new line and at the bottom, must scroll to see it. When i enable it, BIOS refuse to activate and show some error relating to Plaform key, i need to change Secure Boot Mode to Customize and then generate Factory Key management. Documentation is described here :
• Use the PC Health Check . There's no more error on TPM 2.0 or Secure Boot, but there's always the problem of unsupported processor .
• Modify registry to disable the check of processor when install Windows 11 : https://www.theverge.com/22715331/h...11-unsupported-cpu-intel-amd-registry-regedit
• Download Windows 11 ISO and then install. When installing, there's a big warning message that if i install with a unsupported processor, i may not receive update in future. I assume this risk after doing some research.
• The Windows license si automatically updated with new Windows 11 (althought i install with ISO and not the Windows update), so nothing to do.
• Good news, after installing Windows 11, i continue to receive updates as usual
• There's some new things in Windows 11 that i do not like, so first thing to do is to install StartAllBack. But in general, i like Windows 11, i install it because mainly of WSL (and maybe other technical features) that exist only on Windows 11

Hope that this message is helpful for some guys having old PC and wanna moving to Windows 11. With this hack, i save about 1500 euros (to upgrade motherboard, CPU,...) and time to do it, and still have a good CPU (enough for my need) for some more years (until price become standard for motherboard with PCIe 5.0, DDR 5 6400, SSD M2 PCI 5.0 )