XFX 7800 GS AGP Extreme Edition Performance Issue

[hella-d]

With My 8800GS (The Full System Specs Are In My Sig) I Get Around 145FPS Average With Spikes Of 165FPS, And A Minimum Framerate Of 80FPS, Every Enviroment Detail At Maximum 8xAA, 16xAA, Ultra High Quality @ 1680x1050

 

[Fursecul]

You could try to buy some ArcticSilver 5 and see if the temps go down and i would try to take down the vga cooler and apply some AS 5 on it too.I dont think that the problem is coming from the driver,it's heat or the PSU.

 

[blade85]

I had the XFX 7800 GS extreme. I played HL2 at 1024x768 ( I just like that res) with everything maxed out 2X AA and 4X AF. FPS avg around 45, unless im outside in really big areas..where it falls to about 20ish for a few seconds.
max fps: 130
min fps: 17 -> very rare

But I never found the game unplayable.


In call of duty 2, My settings are similar except i didnt use any AA and AF, everything else was set on the ultra settings. I almost always had over 30 fps.
max fps: 300
min fps: 20

I also know that if anything my cpu and mobo were the main bottle neck:

socket 478 P4 2.5Ghz and a 4X agp slot mobo


I have a 380 watt Tagan psu with 22A on the 12V rail.

the avg temp i got after a good couple of hrs of gaming ( me + my brother use the same pc) was about 43 degrees.

 

[MarkG]

my CPU temp is 59/60 degrees. I was told, however, P4's run hot - but surely not this hot?

That could be a problem: the temperature warning monitor on my PC is set for 65C external CPU temperature and 75C internal... right now my P4-3.06 is at 31C external and 70C internal. If you're getting up to 60C external temperatures when idle, then you could certainly be seeing the CPU throttling back due to excessive temperatures when running a game.

There is a program which will monitor CPU throttling and display a graph after running a game, but I forget what it's called.

 

[Blacken]

RMClock from Right Mark is very helpfull. Displays temps, usage graph, throttles.
http://cpu.rightmark.org/download.shtml

 

[Sarghm]

Okay, I tried the CPU Stability RMClock, and I got this:

CPU Test (linked for 1280x1024 size)

What does this show?

 

[Blacken]

Hmm, I'm a bit confused about how that shows stability. I see it's not displaying your CPU temp?

Heres RMClock 2.2 in executable form (exe): http://cpu.rightmark.org/download/rmclock_22_bin.exe

Maybe that will display your temperature.

 

[Sarghm]

Okay, had more luck with this one.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4122/b4gamevq8.jpg

This one displays the throttling before I started the game - everything idle. I then double clicked the Trackmania icon, and this popped up:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6338/aftergamemg5.jpg

It came up instantly after the double click, and went down to 99.2% before returning to it's solid state of 100%.

 

[dhufstader]

I have this same card, was having issues with it only running at 15 FPS, etc... this is known problem with these cards. the temp monitoring in the bios that is supposed to throttle the card down when it gets too hot, also kicks in if it is too cool...
I received a BIOS update from XFX that solved this... you can do it yourself also ir you have something that lets you tweak the BIOS, just disable temp montioring.

 

[Sarghm]

Yeah, I've heard of this BIOS fix. Where can I get it from?

 

[dhufstader]

send me a PM with your e-mail, I will forward the email from XFX support with the BIOS and needed files to flash the card.

 

[Sarghm]

PM'd shortly after the post made, still received no reply. I have found the BIOS now anyway and have attempted to install it. It installed successfully, and games seemed to retain a good FPS - until the next day in which it returned to it's normal FPS decrease.

 

[dhufstader]

sorry, meant to get back to you on that... the email bounced.
gmail wouldn't accept a ZIP file ?

just an after thought.. doyou know the exact model? the bios i have is for a T70K-UAD

 

[georgelawton]

You flashed a $400 video card, without talking to support first? Hope ya backed up the original bios! Talk about voiding your warranty. hahaha

 

[Sarghm]

Yeah, the bios was for the model T70K-UAD which is the exact model of the card. And yes, georgelawton, I did back up my original bios.

 

[XFXSupport]

Did you ever start a support ticket? Also PM me the Version number and bios number off of the video card and I will look into finding an updated bios version for your video card.

XFX Support

 

[Sarghm]

I haven't started one, no - I'll get to that now, actually.

Bios version is 5.70.02.33.05, and I'm using 93.71 Forceware.

 

[XFXSupport]

PM me your email address and I will send the bios.

XFX Support

 

[Datman]

RIDICULOUS Problem? 7800GS too cool temperature issue

Read through this thread.

 

[Fursecul]

You could try and slow down your fan by using RivaTuner but i don't think that would help,but you should give it a try.

 

[Sarghm]

PM'd!

And Datman, the GPU is running at around 42 degrees idle - it's not too cold.

 

[XFXSupport]

I just sent the BIOS update. Please let us know how it goes or if you have any questions.

XFX Support

 

[Sarghm]

I didn't receive the email - sent another PM following up.

 

[TabrisDarkPeace]

Download the latest SiS Chipset drivers from here:

http://www.sis.com/download/agreement.php?url=/download/

You'll want at least the SiS AGP(GART) Driver and SiS IDE/SATA/RAID Driver(s), you may also want the SiS LAN driver, assuming your network chip is an SiS one.

Once installed reboot.

Make sure nothing else is running in the background using memory while gaming - your problem sounds like a memory leak in an application, or in the video driver itself (which may indicate you've never installed SiS drivers and you're still using Microsoft 'generic chipset' compatible ones for both AGP/GART and IDE/SATA/RAID) - Thus my suggestion above.

XFX Support might be able to help you more with this, but not sure if they only support their products, or will delve into mainboard chipset / video chipset + drivers + configuration in general.

 

[Datman]

You could try and slow down your fan by using RivaTuner but i don't think that would help,but you should give it a try.

Thanks, tried that already.
I didn't have the problem before, just after the driver change to 93.71.