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The cards offer poor performance per watt compared to ATI products. Though I have a 750w PSU, I would never buy a card that needs that much power (275W) to give that level (15% faster than 5870) of performance. I previously had a 8800 GTS 320 MB, but now I have switched to ATI for the DirectX 11 generation. It is disappointing that nVidia couldn't deliver what it had promised: An unprecedented level of performance (by which it meant significant gains over previous generation's highest card i.e. GTX 295).
 
[citation][nom]Mr THX[/nom]Why would they post ATI articles? ATI sucks balls period.[/citation]

I think the IQ of average nvidia fan is lower than average ATI fan.
 
Here is today's contractually obligated Fermi story. Still it has twice as many pictures as some of the others so the Launch must be near. Only another four of these to endure before we get disappointed.
 
Are you guys ready for the highest ever gross sales for a new videocard? Not!

I'll admit this will be the fastest card in some benchmarks but the only sales record this card will break is most expensive dud!

No doubt one hardcore enthusiast will SLI or tri-SLI Fermi and run bnechmarks and we will read about it and see more pics and go oooh and aahh....

Too bad I don't play benchmarks.

 
What ever happened to comparing actual graphics displayed between video cards? Why are we pc gamers so wrapped up in pointless FPS benchmarks? Did you buy your video card so you could call John and talk smack about your score on 3dmark, or did you buy it because you wanted to be stunned by the incredible visual effects in Fallout 3, Crysis, or Mass Effect 2? I hope when they compare these rival cards they have side by side photo/video comparison of the quality of the graphics these cards are capable of producing. FPS data is useless unless you fall below 30 FPS, anything above 60 is a waste. People that keep focusing on stupid FPS benchmarks make the video card company CEO's think thats what we want, so they will skimp on actual video quality just to make a good score, then everyone declares them the king of the land, when the rival card may not have the frame rate, but the visuals are far superior. So before you start waving the ATI/Nvidia flag, lets see what they actually do, make awsome graphics!
 
I can't wait for these cards to be released so ATI can do a price drop and I can get me a pair of their cards. I've been an Nvidia fanboy forever but I think I might finally switch to ATI.
 
[citation][nom]scrumworks[/nom]I think the IQ of average nvidia fan is lower than average ATI fan.[/citation]
I really don't care about those fan wars, but your sentence is quite ironic, isn't it?
 


There's what you think and then there are benchmarks. How about some benchmarks on the IQs of both fanboys? Mine's off the chart but on the low end!
 
They will be expensive no doubt. they cant compete with ATI because they are kind of late to the show. Ati can drop prices anytime, they have so much of the market right now. If the gtx 400 series doesnt completely destroy the 5000 series then it wont be much of a market sucess for them
 
Judging from the scores the comments have been receiving (and usually do recieve in a GPU related post at Tom's) I'd say this place has a lot of AMD fanatics, or maybe just one very, VERY obsessive one, lol.

I'll start taking AMD's GPU offerings more seriously when they actually have stable, working drivers, because anything less than that and your very expensive video card is only marginally better than a doorstop with a shiny DX11 sticker on it.

As for the Fermi, let's just hope for the sake of a competitive market that it doesn't end up being "too little, too late" for Nvidia's consumer GPU side.
 
They say not to judge a book by its cover (or video card packaging), but XFX has always done a spectacular job boxing up their cards and it looks very professional. I have been buying mainly XFX lately and even their PCB is beautiful, matte black with black heatsinks and possibly a small highlight of yellow-green (Nvidia) or red (ATi).

Well the cards looks impressive anyway, but I think a lot of it is still hype. Ati has been doing a hell of a good job with HD5000 and with thew new Catalyst drivers, it is looking very good. But if Nvidia puts something good on the table, respect should be given where it is due.
 
[citation][nom]shadow187[/nom]I'm tired of Tom's hyping of everyone for nVidia. Did you do this for ATI? No, I didn't think so.[/citation]

lol
 
what really intrigues me is that nvidia is so cautious with thier top line gtx 480 that they are releasing the final boards assembled to selected distributors like, evga or likely competitors that dont also sell ati products, then having evga just slap thier sticker on it, ,i cant ever remember a company doing this,

for example the msi lightning, is a great card, but the quality in wich the heatsinks are applied varies, ive seen overclocks differ as much as 200mhz gpu, so while i have no doubt each board has the quality to reach 1ghz plus gpu clock rate, msi feels that the hardcore overclockers are going to put a waterblock on it anyway, so with gtx 480, and those 4 heatpipes i wonder if nvidia is afraid of having any of them fry themselves if the heatsink is not attached perfectly and each card tested for a longer duration due to lack of faith in the design and not wanting any problems on launch,

this makes me think -3% overclocking headroom,

why else would they be doing this? i cant think of anything.
 
[citation][nom]stoplooknlisten[/nom]Judging from the scores the comments have been receiving (and usually do recieve in a GPU related post at Tom's) I'd say this place has a lot of AMD fanatics, or maybe just one very, VERY obsessive one, lol. I'll start taking AMD's GPU offerings more seriously when they actually have stable, working drivers, because anything less than that and your very expensive video card is only marginally better than a doorstop with a shiny DX11 sticker on it.As for the Fermi, let's just hope for the sake of a competitive market that it doesn't end up being "too little, too late" for Nvidia's consumer GPU side.[/citation]

I agree. I also see that most of the ATI fanatics have forgot that the 5xxx-series had the same issues as the Fermi series last year. Low yeilds made the cards non existant and then there was the grey screen issue from faulty chips (iirc). ATI and Nvidia use the same fab, TSMC, that have issues with it's 40 nm process. I guess Nvidia just wanted to make sure they had volume and stability before launching.

Imho the 5xxx-series was a paper launch, hardly any avaliability the first 3-4 months of release. Both ATI and Nvidia have done paper launches in the past.
 
Okay everyone STOP with the fanboyism! We need both manufacturers to stay in business. Do you ATI-only tools think if Nvidia stops making high performance GPUs your lives will be better? How about you Nvidia-only tools? You think your lives would be better if ATI goes bankrupt and disappears?
 



My life would be better if either one of them went bankrupt? Why? So I could get some deals on the going out of business sale! And if both went out of business, that would be even better! But gamers should get the best cards cause then it's only Intel who'll be left and we already know they can't make a competitive gaming GPU.
 
[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]The HD5970 is currently going for around $700-$750, and that's if you can actually find one available.[/citation]
Yes, I will agree; particularly with the supplies available, the 5970 certainly wouldn't be in the same price range as the 480, especially with some more leaks that suggest the price being lower than I thought.

(and yes, voted up for providing a REASONABLE disagreement)

[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]Assuming that the GTX480 consumes 295 watts is an over simplification, and well... misleading.[/citation]
True... Hence why I didn't specify that figure. (unless I missed something, and the 5970 consumes that on load...) TBH, 295w isn't something I'd call sane whatsoever, from ANY video card maker. (well, perhaps Intel's Larrabee...) Likewise, I wasn't even aware that, with PCI-e 1.0, you could even sUPPLY that much with just a 16-lane slot, plus a 6+8 pin pair of connectors. (I thought those would only get you 275, and it was best to NEVER cut it close)

Still, I was thinking it might not be that outlandish to think that the 480 would have a TDP that would share more in common with the 5970's than the 5870's. At the very least, sharing the same number of external power pins would, as my logic went on, back it up; I'd guess that both would likely be in the 210-240-watt range.

Mainly, my point was that even if it's not as extreme as claimed, it's worrying that it seems all but written that the 480 will fail to live up to its hype, fail to justify its price, (and TDP) and hence lead to a lengthy period of market stagnation.
 
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