[SOLVED] XMP issue

[Mellor81]

Unable to enable xmp profile1 in my bios, i can enable it and it will run fine, i can even do a restart and it will boot up and run fine, however, if i do a full shut down and attempt a boot up, the monitor gives no signal and the keyboard and mouse will not light up, this has led to me resetting the bios several times to get my pc back, im wondering if my ram is too high for my mobo and thats whats causing it:

Gigabyte b450m gaming mobo (micro ATX)
Corsair x2 8gb 3600mhz RAM
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu
Corsair TX650m psu
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1660 super gaming OC
Windows home 11
Seagate barracuda 1TB HDD

ive read several articles regarding this but no ones been able to yet to give an insight so hoping this wonderful site as always will be able to provide one, it must be something simple if it can run it at 3600 perfectly fine so must be a setting a miss on boot up somewhere that im missing, thanks.

 

[Tioym]

Your motherboard probably cant run your RAM at XMP. Have you checked if your RAM is officially supported by your motherboard? You can check that on your motherboard's website in the Support Section -> Memory Support List. (Vermeer) : https://www.gigabyte.com/pk/Motherboard/B450M-GAMING-rev-1x/support#support-doc
If your RAM is supported, try updating the BIOS.
If it's not there, then yeah the only real option is to underclock the memory(Manually set it in the BIOS to 3200 or 3000) or provide it more voltage. Stock DDR4 runs at 1.2V while XMP usually runs at 1.35V. If your RAM is unstable at 1.35V, you can bump it up to 1.38-1.4V in the BIOSand maybe then it'll work just fine. I don't recommend you go above 1.4V though.

*There's always a small risk involved when you do this. There is a chance that you fry your RAM although very very small. If you do it, you accept the risks.

 

[Mellor81]

Your motherboard probably cant run your RAM at XMP. Have you checked if your RAM is officially supported by your motherboard? You can check that on your motherboard's website in the Support Section -> Memory Support List. (Vermeer) : https://www.gigabyte.com/pk/Motherboard/B450M-GAMING-rev-1x/support#support-doc
If your RAM is supported, try updating the BIOS.
If it's not there, then yeah the only real option is to underclock the memory(Manually set it in the BIOS to 3200 or 3000) or provide it more voltage. Stock DDR4 runs at 1.2V while XMP usually runs at 1.35V. If your RAM is unstable at 1.35V, you can bump it up to 1.38-1.4V in the BIOSand maybe then it'll work just fine. I don't recommend you go above 1.4V though.

*There's always a small risk involved when you do this. There is a chance that you fry your RAM although very very small. If you do it, you accept the risks.

Yep the ram is apparently fully supported, its currently running at 2.3 i think and i can up it to 3600 it just wont boot up after a full shut down, ive always been reluctant to update bios heard it can go all screwy lol current bios is f41 do u think updating that would actually help? Its frustrating that it will run without issues only to fail to boot up again after a shut down, you’d expect a system restart to fail too but it doesnt so thats weird

 

[CountMike]

Yep the ram is apparently fully supported, its currently running at 2.3 i think and i can up it to 3600 it just wont boot up after a full shut down, ive always been reluctant to update bios heard it can go all screwy lol current bios is f41 do u think updating that would actually help? Its frustrating that it will run without issues only to fail to boot up again after a shut down, you’d expect a system restart to fail too but it doesnt so thats weird

Check site for your MB and see each BIOS version description, if any newer version mentions "improved memory or reliability, aim for it.
There has been recent rush of AGESA code and with it BIOS versions for all Ryzen platform, many of those for solving such problems.
I always recommend latest COMPATIBLE version. Update is easy if you follow instructions in MB manual.

 

[Mellor81]

Ill do that, thank you very much for taking the time to help

 

[Mellor81]

Check site for your MB and see each BIOS version description, if any newer version mentions "improved memory or reliability, aim for it.
There has been recent rush of AGESA code and with it BIOS versions for all Ryzen platform, many of those for solving such problems.
I always recommend latest COMPATIBLE version. Update is easy if you follow instructions in MB manual.

BIOS update was the issue, after flashing it today it enabled xmp and booted no problem 🤗

 

[twowheelstom]

XMP is an Intel thing, it doesn't work with AMD cpus

 

[Mellor81]

XMP is an Intel thing, it doesn't work with AMD cpus

Well it does now, and its in the amd menu?

 

[Karadjgne]

XMP is Intel eXtreme Memory Profile. Every major motherboard partner uses it or a facsimile of it and those using amd motherboards choosing to use it pay Intel royalties for the copyright. Asus chose to make their own (DOCP) for amd boards, it's essentially the same thing, if coded differently to avoid copyright infringements. Asrock uses A-Xmp, Gigabyte has used EOCP etc.

But for generic chat purposes, XMP is nothing more than reference to the preset overclock profile set in ram.

 

[Koekieezz]

BIOS update was the issue, after flashing it today it enabled xmp and booted no problem 🤗

A little information, it is best to flash the bios to agesa 1.2.0.3 as the version above it does have problem and issues. My advice: if it's on the latest, downgrade to bios with agesa 1.2.0.3, enable xmp profile, then find "XMP High Frequency" and set it to Level 3 (it will lock the FCLK and UCLK at 1800), since gigabyte sometimes have issues with i/o bugs and audio crackling IF you manually throw voltage on soc, vddp, and vddg. After that update the chipset driver to the latest from amd website, and enjoy.

 

[Mellor81]

XMP is Intel eXtreme Memory Profile. Every major motherboard partner uses it or a facsimile of it and those using amd motherboards choosing to use it pay Intel royalties for the copyright. Asus chose to make their own (DOCP) for amd boards, it's essentially the same thing, if coded differently to avoid copyright infringements. Asrock uses A-Xmp, Gigabyte has used EOCP etc.

But for generic chat purposes, XMP is nothing more than reference to the preset overclock profile set in ram.

Absolutely, ive read exactly this so you are correct, the one guy that told me it just flat out doesn't work on my motherboard is just plain wrong, i have it running flawlessly at 3600 now using the profile 1