XP memory leaks

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I'm having memory leak problems with XP SP2. I'm using XP for
predominantly Internet access (firefox) and email (outlook 2003). Both
firefox and outlook are reputed to have memory leak problems and I'm
trying to understand how XP manages memory so I can deal better with
these problems. I use the task manager to keep tabs on my available
physical memory and the use of memory by my processes.

In particular, I understand an application uses virtual memory and XP
maps virtual into physical. I understand how an application can waste
memory but if XP manages physical memory I would expect that when I
kill an application XP would recover all physical memory that the
application was using. However, that doesn't appear to be the case.
Eventually I lose enough memory (I have 512M) that I have to reboot,
even if I have killed both firefox and outlook.

So I'm wondering if my understanding of XP's management of physical
memory is correct, which would tell me I should recover physical memory
when I kill firefox and outlook. Of course, an alternative explanation
is that I could be suffering a memory leak elsewhere other than these 2
applications.

Denis

 

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I'm not aware of any "memory leak" issues with Outlook 2003.
And no one has mentioned any similar issue with Firefox.

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Denis wrote:

| I'm having memory leak problems with XP SP2. I'm using XP for
| predominantly Internet access (firefox) and email (outlook 2003). Both
| firefox and outlook are reputed to have memory leak problems and I'm
| trying to understand how XP manages memory so I can deal better with
| these problems. I use the task manager to keep tabs on my available
| physical memory and the use of memory by my processes.
|
| In particular, I understand an application uses virtual memory and XP
| maps virtual into physical. I understand how an application can waste
| memory but if XP manages physical memory I would expect that when I
| kill an application XP would recover all physical memory that the
| application was using. However, that doesn't appear to be the case.
| Eventually I lose enough memory (I have 512M) that I have to reboot,
| even if I have killed both firefox and outlook.
|
| So I'm wondering if my understanding of XP's management of physical
| memory is correct, which would tell me I should recover physical memory
| when I kill firefox and outlook. Of course, an alternative explanation
| is that I could be suffering a memory leak elsewhere other than these 2
| applications.
|
| Denis

 

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What youre looking for isnt an easy topic to list here,however for more
info on it,go to:http://www.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;
555223&SD=tech


"sysdrk@wowway.com" wrote:

> I'm having memory leak problems with XP SP2. I'm using XP for
> predominantly Internet access (firefox) and email (outlook 2003). Both
> firefox and outlook are reputed to have memory leak problems and I'm
> trying to understand how XP manages memory so I can deal better with
> these problems. I use the task manager to keep tabs on my available
> physical memory and the use of memory by my processes.
>
> In particular, I understand an application uses virtual memory and XP
> maps virtual into physical. I understand how an application can waste
> memory but if XP manages physical memory I would expect that when I
> kill an application XP would recover all physical memory that the
> application was using. However, that doesn't appear to be the case.
> Eventually I lose enough memory (I have 512M) that I have to reboot,
> even if I have killed both firefox and outlook.
>
> So I'm wondering if my understanding of XP's management of physical
> memory is correct, which would tell me I should recover physical memory
> when I kill firefox and outlook. Of course, an alternative explanation
> is that I could be suffering a memory leak elsewhere other than these 2
> applications.
>
> Denis
>
>

 

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<sysdrk@wowway.com> wrote in message
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> I'm having memory leak problems with XP SP2. I'm using XP for
> predominantly Internet access (firefox) and email (outlook 2003). Both
> firefox and outlook are reputed to have memory leak problems and I'm
> trying to understand how XP manages memory so I can deal better with
> these problems. I use the task manager to keep tabs on my available
> physical memory and the use of memory by my processes.

Not a wise idea. The amount of physical memory in use should optimally
*always* be 100%. Free real is wasted oppurtunity.

>
> In particular, I understand an application uses virtual memory and XP
> maps virtual into physical. I understand how an application can waste
> memory but if XP manages physical memory I would expect that when I
> kill an application XP would recover all physical memory that the
> application was using. However, that doesn't appear to be the case.
> Eventually I lose enough memory (I have 512M) that I have to reboot,
> even if I have killed both firefox and outlook.

And why do feel the need to reboot?


>
> So I'm wondering if my understanding of XP's management of physical
> memory is correct, which would tell me I should recover physical memory
> when I kill firefox and outlook.

Yes it does. What makes you think the memory hasn't been freed?

> Of course, an alternative explanation
> is that I could be suffering a memory leak elsewhere other than these 2
> applications.

More like a misunderstanding of what's happening. A true memory leak causes
application faults and can cause system degradation over time and in some
instances can cause a system fault.

Are you experiencing either real application or system faults? If so, what
are they?

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Walter Clayton
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.

 

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Walter Clayton wrote:
> Outlook does house keeping. There's also the question of the plug-ins
and
> what affect they're having. I've now had Outlook up on both my
desktop and
> laptop for over 48 hours and there are *no* issues with my
configurations.
> Look at what's interfacing with Outlook.

So I checked out my outlook add-ins (I wasn't aware there were any) and
discovered something called 'Mail Speak (Toshiba)'. This addin tells
me how many unread messages I have and when I have new messages. I
don't know how I will live without this but when I unclicked this addin
I found that the oscillating CPU usage went away. So I'm guessing that
when I lose my audio after coming out of standby mode some interaction
with this addin goes nuts. Since I unclicked this I haven't seen any
memory leak and I've had outlook active for almost 2 days - that's a
record. So I'm pretty confident this is the culprit.

Now, if someone has suggestions on how to debug what might be causing
the loss of my audio when I come out of standby... However, this isn't
that important. I don't use the audio very often so that's a
relatively minor thing.

Anyway, thanks for the outlook addin suggestion.

Denis

 

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Check for any updated audio drivers. If Toshiba doesn't have any, then look
at the chipset vendor's site or even Windows Update.

--
Walter Clayton
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.


<sysdrk@wowway.com> wrote in message
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>
> Walter Clayton wrote:
>> Outlook does house keeping. There's also the question of the plug-ins
> and
>> what affect they're having. I've now had Outlook up on both my
> desktop and
>> laptop for over 48 hours and there are *no* issues with my
> configurations.
>> Look at what's interfacing with Outlook.
>
> So I checked out my outlook add-ins (I wasn't aware there were any) and
> discovered something called 'Mail Speak (Toshiba)'. This addin tells
> me how many unread messages I have and when I have new messages. I
> don't know how I will live without this but when I unclicked this addin
> I found that the oscillating CPU usage went away. So I'm guessing that
> when I lose my audio after coming out of standby mode some interaction
> with this addin goes nuts. Since I unclicked this I haven't seen any
> memory leak and I've had outlook active for almost 2 days - that's a
> record. So I'm pretty confident this is the culprit.
>
> Now, if someone has suggestions on how to debug what might be causing
> the loss of my audio when I come out of standby... However, this isn't
> that important. I don't use the audio very often so that's a
> relatively minor thing.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the outlook addin suggestion.
>
> Denis
>