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When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't partition
the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios recognizes the
drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it will only let me
partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I
want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to
partition that space I get a message saying that the space is too small. But
if I delete all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use those
extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still curious. Is there a
way to fix it?
 
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Kricket wrote:

> When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't partition
> the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios recognizes the
> drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it will only let me
> partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I
> want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to
> partition that space I get a message saying that the space is too small. But
> if I delete all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
> format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use those
> extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still curious. Is there a
> way to fix it?

XP reserves more at least 1MB of disk space as unpartitioned to allow
for conversion to a dynamic disk. The smallest size that can be left
unpartitioned depends on the cluster sizes of the particular disk, in
your case that is around 7MB.

Steve
 
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"Kricket" <Kricket@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:53D8EEAA-9272-4ED6-97A3-28A3FCB9B338@microsoft.com...
> When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't partition
> the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios recognizes
> the
> drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it will only let
> me
> partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I
> want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to
> partition that space I get a message saying that the space is too small.
> But
> if I delete all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available
> to
> format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use those
> extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still curious. Is there
> a
> way to fix it?

This is normal. Windows XP reserves a small amount of space in case the
drive is converted to a dynamic disk in the future. The only way around it
is to use a third party tool to partition the hard drive before Windows is
installed.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q225822

Kerry
 
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From: "Kricket" <Kricket@discussions.microsoft.com>

| When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't partition
| the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios recognizes the
| drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it will only let me
| partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I
| want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to
| partition that space I get a message saying that the space is too small. But
| if I delete all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
| format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use those
| extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still curious. Is there a
| way to fix it?

Drives are sold as unformatted capacities. If you got 19.99GB out of 20GB all is Good !

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
 
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:OzwN$cUvFHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:

> From: "Kricket" <Kricket@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
>| When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't
>| partition the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My
>| bios recognizes the drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole
>| drive but it will only let me partition and format 19992 mb of the
>| drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I want it will show the extra 7
>| mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to partition that space I
>| get a message saying that the space is too small. But if I delete
>| all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
>| format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use
>| those extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still
>| curious. Is there a way to fix it?
>
> Drives are sold as unformatted capacities. If you got 19.99GB out of
> 20GB all is Good !
>

Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install, you
see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the install.
What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.
 
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The reason is to plan for "Dynamic drives" conversion

Unpartitioned Space Remains When Creating a Partition During Setup
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293281

Asher_N wrote:

> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
> news:OzwN$cUvFHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:
>
>
>>From: "Kricket" <Kricket@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>
>>| When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't
>>| partition the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My
>>| bios recognizes the drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole
>>| drive but it will only let me partition and format 19992 mb of the
>>| drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I want it will show the extra 7
>>| mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to partition that space I
>>| get a message saying that the space is too small. But if I delete
>>| all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
>>| format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use
>>| those extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still
>>| curious. Is there a way to fix it?
>>
>>Drives are sold as unformatted capacities. If you got 19.99GB out of
>>20GB all is Good !
>>
>
>
> Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install, you
> see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the install.
> What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.
 
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From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>


| Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install, you
| see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the install.
| What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.

Maybe on a OEM supplied PC where the vendor creates a specialty partition. For example,
Dell may do this for the Dell Diagnostics. Symantec Ghost may do this for a Ghost Boot
Disk.

A new bare drive will not do this.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
 
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:#XLXQtUvFHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

> From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>
>
>| Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install,
>| you see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the
>| install. What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.
>
> Maybe on a OEM supplied PC where the vendor creates a specialty
> partition. For example, Dell may do this for the Dell Diagnostics.
> Symantec Ghost may do this for a Ghost Boot Disk.
>
> A new bare drive will not do this.
>

A bare drive will do this. I've done a number of clean installs where
I've deleted all partitions until only one remains, selectedit, and ended
up with 2.
 
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:%23XLXQtUvFHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>
>
> | Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install, you
> | see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the install.
> | What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.
>
> Maybe on a OEM supplied PC where the vendor creates a specialty partition.
> For example,
> Dell may do this for the Dell Diagnostics. Symantec Ghost may do this for
> a Ghost Boot
> Disk.
>
> A new bare drive will not do this.

Now that's strange, all the "bare" drives in the three desktops I've built
for my home network all have this 8 MB partition.
 
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The reason is to plan for "Dynamic drives" conversion

Unpartitioned Space Remains When Creating a Partition During Setup
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293281

Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:

> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
> news:%23XLXQtUvFHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>>From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>>| Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install, you
>>| see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the install.
>>| What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.
>>
>>Maybe on a OEM supplied PC where the vendor creates a specialty partition.
>>For example,
>>Dell may do this for the Dell Diagnostics. Symantec Ghost may do this for
>>a Ghost Boot
>>Disk.
>>
>>A new bare drive will not do this.
>
>
> Now that's strange, all the "bare" drives in the three desktops I've built
> for my home network all have this 8 MB partition.
>
>
 
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From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>


| A bare drive will do this. I've done a number of clean installs where
| I've deleted all partitions until only one remains, selectedit, and ended
| up with 2.

Well. Maybe I'm wrong based upon Steve N.'s post.

However what's 8MB out of 20GB or ,04% ?

Seems insignificant and trivial to me. It's like buying a car a quibbling over pennies.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
 
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David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>
>
> | A bare drive will do this. I've done a number of clean installs where
> | I've deleted all partitions until only one remains, selectedit, and ended
> | up with 2.
>
> Well. Maybe I'm wrong based upon Steve N.'s post.

BTW, Win2K does it, too.

>
> However what's 8MB out of 20GB or ,04% ?
>
> Seems insignificant and trivial to me. It's like buying a car a quibbling over pennies.
>

Yeah, big deal.

Steve
 
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=?Utf-8?B?S3JpY2tldA==?= wrote:
>
> When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't partition
> the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios recognizes the
> drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it will only let me
> partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I
> want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to
> partition that space I get a message saying that the space is too small. But
> if I delete all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
> format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use those
> extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still curious. Is there a
> way to fix it?

Nothing to worry about.

--
http://www.bootdisk.com/
 
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Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:uCF4HDVvFHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

Yhanks for the info. You can learn something new everyday.

> The reason is to plan for "Dynamic drives" conversion
>
> Unpartitioned Space Remains When Creating a Partition During Setup
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293281
>
> Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:
>
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> news:%23XLXQtUvFHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>| Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install,
>>>| you see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the
>>>| install. What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB
>>>| partition.
>>>
>>>Maybe on a OEM supplied PC where the vendor creates a specialty
>>>partition. For example,
>>>Dell may do this for the Dell Diagnostics. Symantec Ghost may do
>>>this for a Ghost Boot
>>>Disk.
>>>
>>>A new bare drive will not do this.
>>
>>
>> Now that's strange, all the "bare" drives in the three desktops I've
>> built for my home network all have this 8 MB partition.
>>
>>
>
>
 
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:esLRG6UvFHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>
>
>| A bare drive will do this. I've done a number of clean installs where
>| I've deleted all partitions until only one remains, selectedit, and
>| ended up with 2.
>
> Well. Maybe I'm wrong based upon Steve N.'s post.
>
> However what's 8MB out of 20GB or ,04% ?
>
> Seems insignificant and trivial to me. It's like buying a car a
> quibbling over pennies.
>

It's not about the amount of space. I agree, it's trivial. It's good to
know why. Heck, the reason I never bothered finging out why IS because
it's only 8MB.
 
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Think its a bit humorous that MS acknowledges this as a partition. Then, at
the end of the article, calls it a drive. Guess they had to get their
sayspeak in there.

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23cRg8CVvFHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> The reason is to plan for "Dynamic drives" conversion
>
> Unpartitioned Space Remains When Creating a Partition During Setup
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293281
>
> Asher_N wrote:
>
> > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
> > news:OzwN$cUvFHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:
> >
> >
> >>From: "Kricket" <Kricket@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>
> >>| When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't
> >>| partition the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My
> >>| bios recognizes the drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole
> >>| drive but it will only let me partition and format 19992 mb of the
> >>| drive. Once I set the 2 partitions I want it will show the extra 7
> >>| mb as unpartitioned space but when I try to partition that space I
> >>| get a message saying that the space is too small. But if I delete
> >>| all partitions it goes back to only showing 19992 mb available to
> >>| format. What is the problem here? Why will it not allow me to use
> >>| those extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I know but I am still
> >>| curious. Is there a way to fix it?
> >>
> >>Drives are sold as unformatted capacities. If you got 19.99GB out of
> >>20GB all is Good !
> >>
> >
> >
> > Not what the OP was reffereing to. I've seen it happen. On Install, you
> > see a single 20GB partition. Select it to install, perform the install.
> > What you end up with is a 19.92 GB part AND a 8MB partition.
>
 
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:esLRG6UvFHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com>
>
>
> | A bare drive will do this. I've done a number of clean installs where
> | I've deleted all partitions until only one remains, selectedit, and
> ended
> | up with 2.
>
> Well. Maybe I'm wrong based upon Steve N.'s post.
>
> However what's 8MB out of 20GB or ,04% ?
>
> Seems insignificant and trivial to me. It's like buying a car a quibbling
> over pennies.

I never gave it much thought, 8MB out of 200GB on my drive is nothing to
even have to think about.
 
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"Steve N." <Steve_N@nunya.biz.nes> wrote in message
news:%23ncRq1UvFHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Kricket wrote:
>
>> When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't
>> partition the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios
>> recognizes the drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it
>> will only let me partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set
>> the 2 partitions I want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned
>> space but when I try to partition that space I get a message saying that
>> the space is too small. But if I delete all partitions it goes back to
>> only showing 19992 mb available to format. What is the problem here?
>> Why will it not allow me to use those extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I
>> know but I am still curious. Is there a way to fix it?
>
> XP reserves more at least 1MB of disk space as unpartitioned to allow for
> conversion to a dynamic disk. The smallest size that can be left
> unpartitioned depends on the cluster sizes of the particular disk, in your
> case that is around 7MB.

There you go, a clear and succinct explanation. Thanks.
 
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Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:

> "Steve N." <Steve_N@nunya.biz.nes> wrote in message
> news:%23ncRq1UvFHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>>Kricket wrote:
>>
>>
>>>When I use the XP cd partition and format my hard drive it won't
>>>partition the whole drive. I have a 20 gig Seagate Barricuda. My bios
>>>recognizes the drive correctly. I beleive XP sees the whole drive but it
>>>will only let me partition and format 19992 mb of the drive. Once I set
>>>the 2 partitions I want it will show the extra 7 mb as unpartitioned
>>>space but when I try to partition that space I get a message saying that
>>>the space is too small. But if I delete all partitions it goes back to
>>>only showing 19992 mb available to format. What is the problem here?
>>>Why will it not allow me to use those extra 7mb? Not a serious problem I
>>>know but I am still curious. Is there a way to fix it?
>>
>>XP reserves more at least 1MB of disk space as unpartitioned to allow for
>>conversion to a dynamic disk. The smallest size that can be left
>>unpartitioned depends on the cluster sizes of the particular disk, in your
>>case that is around 7MB.
>
>
> There you go, a clear and succinct explanation. Thanks.
>
>

Thank you. And You're welcome.

Steve
 
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