News Yes, a Pigeon is Still Faster than Gigabit Fiber Internet

[bit_user]

IPoAC wins everytime.

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But good god, that latency and packet loss..

Yeah, and the retransmission delay is absolutely horrid!

Furthermore, it's vulnerable to denial-of-service attacks via man-in-the-middle-with-a-shotgun (or falcon).

 

[bit_user]

If the pigeon didn't go back you can't send more data.

Why do you assume there's only one pigeon?

 

[bit_user]

Currently, that is unusually large.
What would this 3TB file be?

• Multi-day or multi-camera video surveillance recording
• Game or media library
• Scientific or volumetric dataset
• Training data for a large, generative AI model.

 

[USAFRet]

• Multi-day or multi-camera video surveillance recording
• Game or media library
• Scientific or volumetric dataset
• Training data for a large, generative AI model.

And still, for most people, that is unusually large, for a single file to be moving around.

 

[bit_user]

And still, for most people, that is unusually large, for a single file to be moving around.

Yes, and most people don't have 3 TB of storage in their PCs. Heck, I only had 3 TB of usable storage in my actual fileserver, until I upgraded it 4 years ago, and I'm not your typical PC user.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Currently, that is unusually large.
What would this 3TB file be?

SQL Server DB?

 

[kep55]

A decade ago, a pigeon with a 4 GB memory stick outran an ISP’s ADSL service. A 2023 rematch features a bird with 3 TB of flash drives vs gigabit internet.

Yes, a Pigeon is Still Faster than Gigabit Fiber Internet : Read more

And probably a lot more secure. Unless you have a taste for squab.

 

[USAFRet]

SQL Server DB?

Moving that from an iPad to a PC?
Ok, sure....

Thats a whole different thing then what we're discussing.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Moving that from an iPad to a PC?
Ok, sure....

Thats a whole different thing then what we're discussing.

I was just coming up with something that could be easily 3TB in size. Didn't know about the iPad part.

 

[USAFRet]

I was just coming up with something that could be easily 3TB in size. Didn't know about the iPad part.

From someone else, earlier:
"Think about it. If you wanted to transfer a 3TB file from your iPad to your friend's Windows PC quickly and without installing new software or apps, how would you do it?"

A 3TB SQL DB is absolutely not uncommon.

How that is moved, and between what devices....totally different than what the article is talking about.

I have indeed moved blocks of data that size between my NAS and PC. Over a standard gigabit LAN.

But a large SQL db is not generally something you move to a friends PC. And absolutely not from an iPad, because there is no iPad with that much storage.
(and now someone will chime in with an external drive connected to the iPad...blah blah)
That would be done via other means.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Sadly this race could be replicated in most places in the USA, between ISP data caps and speed throttles the pigeon would win every time.

 

[jeremyj_83]

"Think about it. If you wanted to transfer a 3TB file from your iPad to your friend's Windows PC quickly and without installing new software or apps, how would you do it?"

If it's a single file then the data is probably more sequential in nature. That means sneakernet, with a USB3 device, will most likely be faster than 1GbE.

A 3TB SQL DB is absolutely not uncommon.

How that is moved, and between what devices....totally different than what the article is talking about.

While how it is moved is different, I can say from experience that a storage vMotion of a 2TB VM across 1Gb iSCSI is painfully slow. That move takes several hours and you just hope there isn't a timeout for some reason.

 

[bit_user]

While how it is moved is different, I can say from experience that a storage vMotion of a 2TB VM across 1Gb iSCSI is painfully slow. That move takes several hours and you just hope there isn't a timeout for some reason.

I inherited some iSCSI arrays with 1 Gb NICs, at work. Backups of those are indeed painfully slow. Fortunately, I haven't had any flakiness with iSCSI.

 

[jeremyj_83]

I inherited some iSCSI arrays with 1 Gb NICs, at work. Backups of those are indeed painfully slow. Fortunately, I haven't had any flakiness with iSCSI.

iSCSI is a very stable protocol. If you run something like vSAN, while it has its own protocol, it is basically iSCSI.