YouTube-trained radicals ... Is Youtube at least partly to blame?

[Reynod]

Good example ... remember that one where the guy gets thrown out of the truck after the high speed chase on the freeway then run over?

Man ... that shouldn't be on the tube.

Likewise the truck with its tray up that goes through the pedestrian bridge ... people died there.

 

[riser]

Youtube or not, the information is out there. Youtube is a central location.. which should be easier to lock down. I remember seeing the Terrorist's Handbook and Anarchist's Cook Book on the internet back in 98-99.

 

[Beachnative]

Censorship will never work, never has, never will.

 

[Reynod]

Like you speak with any authority on this topic eh?

It can work easily when your running some decent algorythyms searching and deleting stuff on a system that occupies the floor of a large building or two.

Take the Chinese for example ... they chase and delete millions of files, posts and even crunch internal IP's at the drop of a hat in order to control their peons from thinking they have free will.

But laws there are simply for convenience.

If the tube can censor some things it should be censoring others ... or become liable for promoting terrorist activity.

They censor sex ... but not terrorism?

That's unacceptable.

I have yet to see any porn stars blowing ... wait ...

 

[riser]

Rey can censor people. It's called BanHammer.

 

[Beachnative]

But Tom's is a private entity and subject to their rules...So is Youtube. Don't like it don't watch it. I don't like some of the assbags on Youtube and choose not to watch, 's the deal? Write Youtube and volunteer to scan all videos everyday that fall under your screening process and flag them. Youtube is open for anyone to use for whatever reason you choose. If someone complains then it is up to the owner and/or administrator to do whatever they choose to do with the content.......BTW, ever hear of the NSA? And what they track?

 

[gropouce]

Censorship will never work, never has, never will.

How do you know?

 

[Beachnative]

OK, I'll "splain how it works... Dumbass terrorists make the videos and different types of people will watch them. The NSA will track who, when, comments made and other factors that help fight it.
You are looking at the glass half empty approach. By allowing them, they are in a public forum and easily tracked by the above techniques. By censoring it users will go to harder to reach sites...but not completely out of reach : ) It's called intellegence gathering

Heck they are probably watching us and what we are talking about.

 

[gropouce]

Is it me you are answering to?
Because the question was "how do you know?", and no "how does it works?"

 

[Beachnative]

In the context of the original post and my above message, it should be clear.

 

[riser]

Read a book on recent terrorism tracking. I mean, there have been plenty out there along with articles, etc. Ever wonder why they stopped using cell phones and they don't have internet connections in their homes? Hmm.

 

[gropouce]

In the context of the original post and my above message, it should be clear.

Maybe it is. Maybe i didn't get everything in your messages. Sorry if this is the case.

But when i asked you to explain how you know that censorship has never worked, i was expecting something else than "terrorism".
Censorship is a little older than 9/11/2001

 

[riser]

In the context of the original post and my above message, it should be clear.

Maybe it is. Maybe i didn't get everything in your messages. Sorry if this is the case.

But when i asked you to explain how you know that censorship has never worked, i was expecting something else than "terrorism".
Censorship is a little older than 9/11/2001

He was censored when replying.

 

[Reynod]

Wasn't me ... I let idiots write themselves against into a corner.

I only deleted your post over at my news roundup out of spite .. .actually I was too lazy to post an esay on how I was there at the beginning of the interwibble, and explaining the great tradition begun by Mike Magee on that partcicular type of tech journalism ... <sigh>.

Wonder if Beach Nitive knows your one of the men in black he has been babbling on about ?

 

[Beachnative]

In the context of the original post and my above message, it should be clear.

Maybe it is. Maybe i didn't get everything in your messages. Sorry if this is the case.

But when i asked you to explain how you know that censorship has never worked, i was expecting something else than "terrorism".
Censorship is a little older than 9/11/2001

FYI terrorism has been around longer than 2001. By not censoring videos of terrorism the logic should come down to looking into those that watch them and monitor them. Using relative filtering and searching for key words makes the search field much, much smaller. This a simple statistical model filtered by keywords and associates. But I don't know anything...just guessing................................................................... ... .. .

 

[Beachnative]

Wasn't me ... I let idiots write themselves against into a corner.

I only deleted your post over at my news roundup out of spite .. .actually I was too lazy to post an esay on how I was there at the beginning of the interwibble, and explaining the great tradition begun by Mike Magee on that partcicular type of tech journalism ... <sigh>.

Wonder if Beach Nitive knows your one of the men in black he has been babbling on about ?

And your a moderator? Nice

 

[Reynod]

Aww Beachy I'm playing with you ... riser has moderator priviledges since he has been here since tom turned the light on and we found wingy naked on the porch ... so he can see what I did there and probably doesn't care ... if he did he would reverse it ... We often play pranks on each other.

I do take my role seriously ... just not in news and leisure ... unless your breaking the ToS.

Since you have not been here long, you also don't know what real jobs some of these oldtimers have ... like running the planet, holding back the evil hordes ... and water quality engineering (just had to get that in for you oldmangamer).

Not everyone here is a millionaire retiree macaddict with 8 wives living in a condo the coast in the Philippines like marv.

 

[Beachnative]

Aww Beachy I'm playing with you ... riser has moderator priviledges since he has been here since tom turned the light on and we found wingy naked on the porch ... so he can see what I did there and probably doesn't care ... if he did he would reverse it ... We often play pranks on each other.

I do take my role seriously ... just not in news and leisure ... unless your breaking the ToS.

Since you have not been here long, you also don't know what real jobs some of these oldtimers have ... like running the planet, holding back the evil hordes ... and water quality engineering (just had to get that in for you oldmangamer).

Not everyone here is a millionaire retiree macaddict with 8 wives living in a condo the coast in the Philippines like marv.

Props to yas for being honest. Been having a B$#ch of a past week myself... The two jobs I have are cutting into time for a new business I'm starting.

 

[riser]

Aww Beachy I'm playing with you ... riser has moderator priviledges since he has been here since tom turned the light on and we found wingy naked on the porch ... so he can see what I did there and probably doesn't care ... if he did he would reverse it ... We often play pranks on each other.

I do take my role seriously ... just not in news and leisure ... unless your breaking the ToS.

Since you have not been here long, you also don't know what real jobs some of these oldtimers have ... like running the planet, holding back the evil hordes ... and water quality engineering (just had to get that in for you oldmangamer).

Not everyone here is a millionaire retiree macaddict with 8 wives living in a condo the coast in the Philippines like marv.

You know that no one here actually knew I was a moderator? But that's ok.. with the last forum change I lost all my rights anyhow. /shrug

 

[Reynod]

Damn ... well you can unretire ... we will give you back your old Jaeger.

In the meantime keep BeachNative busy down here so he doesn't go back and infect the donuts up the top of the forum ... now he has been here a few weeks there is no going back ... there is only the French forums for this lot.

 

[riser]

Irish Pub Declares War on France

Jacques Chirac, The French President, is sitting in his office when his telephone rings.

"Hallo, Mr. Chirac!" a heavily accented voice said. "This is Paddy Down at the Harp Pub in County Clare, Ireland. I am ringing to inform you that we are officially declaring war on you!"

"Well, Paddy," Chirac replied, "This is indeed important news! How big is your army?"

"Right now," says Paddy, after a moment's calculation, "there is myself, me Cousin Sean, me next door neighbour Seamus, and the entire darts team from the pub. That makes eight!"

Chirac paused. "I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 100,000 men in my army waiting to move on my command."

"Begoora!" says Paddy. "I'll have to ring you back."

Sure enough, the next day, Paddy calls again. "Mr . Chirac, the war is still on. We have managed to get us some infantry equipment!"

"And what equipment would that be Paddy?" Chirac asks.

"Well, we have two combines, a bulldozer, and Murphy's farm tractor."

Chirac sighs amused. "I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 6,000 tanks and 5,000 armored personnel carriers. Also, I have increased my army to 150,000 since we last spoke."

"Saints preserve us!" says Paddy. "I'll have to get back to you."

Sure enough, Paddy rings again the next day. "Mr. Chirac, the war is still on! We have managed to get ourselves airborne! We have modified Jackie McLaughlin's ultra-light with a couple of shotguns in the cockpit, and four boys from the Shamrock Bar have joined us as well!"

Chirac was silent for a minute and then cleared his throat. "I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 100 bombers and 200 fighter planes. My military bases are surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air missile sites. And since we last spoke, I have increased my army to 200,000!"

"Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!" says Paddy, "I will have to ring you back."

Sure enough, Paddy calls again the next day. "Top o' the mornin', Mr. Chirac! I am sorry to inform you that we have had to call off the war."

"Really? I am sorry to hear that," says Chirac. "Why the sudden change of heart?"

"Well," says Paddy, "we had a long chat over a few pints of Guinness, and decided there is no fookin' way we can feed 200,000 prisoners."

 

[gropouce]

 

[Reynod]

Sweet