Question New PC build - it's been awhile

[t3kg33k_og]

So, after having my current PC build for about 9 years I am finally going to build a new machine within the next month. I'm trying to get caught up on all the new technology now in desktop builds. I've seen videos from PC Builder on YouTube (hope this guy knows his stuff; he seems to) and based on one of his recent videos I generated an all AMD build on PCPartPicker
Need input, please. How does this build look? I'm trying to keep it under $1200 for a decent PC. I'm not a heavy gamer that much any more since having a little one but I would like to play some of the newer games. Specifically, I would like to get Cyberpunk 2077 soon to play. Most of the time I'm playing Insurgency: Sandstorm.
Here's the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nDfZmD
There was an interesting note at the bottom that states this:

"The MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard has an additional 8-pin EPS power connector but the MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply does not have any available. This connector is used to supply additional current. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands or extreme overclocking may require it."

Should I go with the B650-S? I actually didn't see it as an option when I was going through the picker a second time after reading that note. Also, I read somewhere on the memory that I needed to pay close attention to timing in the CL30 when building the machine or else I could see some instability. Any concerns there with that build?
Thanks.

 

[logainofhades]

My concern would be that PSU. An RX 6800 would give identical performance, and more vram, for less money. Would choose a better SSD. Those are Dramless drives. I wouldn't do 6 cores in 2024 either. I would do something like this, and add storage later, as needed.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($281.63 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Core Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1197.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 16:08 EDT-0400

 

[t3kg33k_og]

My concern would be that PSU. An RX 6800 would give identical performance, and more vram, for less money. Would choose a better SSD. Those are Dramless drives. I wouldn't do 6 cores in 2024 either. I would do something like this, and add storage later, as needed.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($281.63 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Core Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1197.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 16:08 EDT-0400

Thanks for the response. And some valid points. You're definitely right about the processor; more cores, please.
As far as the case, is that more of a personal preference? Or, is that Montech just a better case than the Deepcool?

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 BLACK Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 750 Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1123.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 16:52 EDT-0400

 

[ohio_buckeye]

My humble opinion, take it for what you think it's worth.

Dump the 7600, dump that motherboard, dump the ddr5 and maybe the 1tb ssd, take off the 7700xt.

Pick up something like a 12600k or kf, z690 board and ddr4.

Between the money you save on the ram and cpu, and if you take off the 1tb drive, ought to give you almost enough for a 7900gre.

Or if you didn't do that, you could still do some shifting around perhaps, newegg has this 7800xt on their ebay store now for 469.99 which shouldn't be too far behind the 7900gre.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3867461800...ynvwde4oNV4xz6bgAPr2Co9KgsA7|tkp:BFBMwpDssedj

Don't get me wrong, I know the 7600 is a decent cpu, but isn't it only about 10% + - faster than a 12600k? And if you are gaming, typically your gpu is where you want to spend.

Looks like if sticking with the AMD platform though, some folks on ebay have the 7500f for about 165. So that would take a few dollars off if needed and still keep that platform.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2664309267...N1XXp0sMF/+OyQfdcfNSL9ITci|tkp:Bk9SR7bX-7HnYw

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($151.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($53.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 BLACK Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 750 Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1024.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 18:10 EDT-0400

 

[beyondlogic]

So, after having my current PC build for about 9 years I am finally going to build a new machine within the next month. I'm trying to get caught up on all the new technology now in desktop builds. I've seen videos from PC Builder on YouTube (hope this guy knows his stuff; he seems to) and based on one of his recent videos I generated an all AMD build on PCPartPicker
Need input, please. How does this build look? I'm trying to keep it under $1200 for a decent PC. I'm not a heavy gamer that much any more since having a little one but I would like to play some of the newer games. Specifically, I would like to get Cyberpunk 2077 soon to play. Most of the time I'm playing Insurgency: Sandstorm.
Here's the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nDfZmD
There was an interesting note at the bottom that states this:


Should I go with the B650-S? I actually didn't see it as an option when I was going through the picker a second time after reading that note. Also, I read somewhere on the memory that I needed to pay close attention to timing in the CL30 when building the machine or else I could see some instability. Any concerns there with that build?
Thanks.

your not really taking advantage of the pci gen slots on nvme i did a bit of modifying
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s8HF6D

improved heatsink to a 5 heatpipe cooler
improved the storage for faster nvme
using a older gpu but the performance is higher to me rdna 3 isnt as much as a jump to justify cost.
the rx 6800 performance is better for the money and has less issues then rdna 3 which still has weird power issues. plus 16gb of vram
better psu.

pc case has better airflow not blocked off by a strip of metal like the deepcool

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I’d say the 6800 over the 7700xt. More vram and being realistic they had time to perfect the drivers etc. the extra vram down the line may mean more in a couple of years.

 

[t3kg33k_og]

your not really taking advantage of the pci gen slots on nvme i did a bit of modifying
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s8HF6D

improved heatsink to a 5 heatpipe cooler
improved the storage for faster nvme
using a older gpu but the performance is higher to me rdna 3 isnt as much as a jump to justify cost.
the rx 6800 performance is better for the money and has less issues then rdna 3 which still has weird power issues. plus 16gb of vram
better psu.

pc case has better airflow not blocked off by a strip of metal like the deepcool

So you changed out the memory for a CL32. Was that to go with the motherboard?
I'm still trying to understand the difference in that CLxx tag for memory.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Similar to @Why_Me build, but utilised the full budget:

Case with front panel type C and included ARGB fans

ATX 3.0 PSU

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX RX-79GMERCB9 Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($540.53 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1173.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-03 07:19 EDT-0400

 

[logainofhades]

Thanks for the response. And some valid points. You're definitely right about the processor; more cores, please.
As far as the case, is that more of a personal preference? Or, is that Montech just a better case than the Deepcool?

I chose the Montech as it has better airflow.

Similar to @Why_Me build, but utilised the full budget:

Case with front panel type C and included ARGB fans

ATX 3.0 PSU

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX RX-79GMERCB9 Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($540.53 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1173.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-03 07:19 EDT-0400

The only thing I would change is the motherboard to the Z690 Extreme. It has better power delivery, audio, and a better rear i/o configuration, for only $10 more.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Yeah if you can fit the 7900gre that looks like a great card.

I grabbed a 6800xt last december on a sale and it's a great card, but I got it for 439. I can say that when you step up from a card like a 6700xt or middle class card and you start getting to the better cards, there is a difference on smoothness etc. Granted a 6800xt is a little behind a 7900gre, closer to a 7800xt level performance, but there does appear to be a difference in fps and fidelity to a point.

 

[t3kg33k_og]

Thanks to everyone for your feedback and suggestions. I wanted to stick with all AMD, CPU and GPU. The build @logainofhades suggestion looks to be closest to what I am looking for.

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[t3kg33k_og]

I got all my parts in and am now in the process of building.
Question: So the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE that @logainofhades recommended, this would be installed instead of the heatsink/fan that was included with the CPU?
If so, what's wrong with the heatsink/fan that came with the CPU?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Better cooling and quieter operation mostly. If you enable PBO, higher boost clocks as well.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Better cooling and quieter operation mostly. If you enable PBO, higher boost clocks as well.

Exactly!