Question $1000 build advice

[tomindful]

I'm building a pc with a budget of $1000 and wondering if all these parts are compatible or just some general advice. Thank you.

CPU: r5 7600x
CPU cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI PRO A620M-E
RAM: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL32
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME
GPU: rtx 3080 10gb
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L
PSU: Thermaltake Smart 600 W 80+

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Tj8qR

 

[COLGeek]

Compatible? Yes.

Your PSU is terrible. Consider something like this make/model instead:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BVXYF78D

 

[Eximo]

Best to avoid the A620 chipset. Low end motherboards not really that upgradeable. Low priority on BIOS updates etc.

B650 or B650e boards are the common choice for a simple gaming build.

X670 or X670e if you plan on a lot of I/O and expansion.

 

[Eximo]

A little more expensive, but should hopefully last a little longer. This PSU or the be quiet! model proposed by COLGeek will work and for future upgrades. 320W GPU is not something you want to throw a weak power supply at.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($206.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($61.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X 10G OC GeForce RTX 3080 10GB 10 GB Video Card ($420.00)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GX3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1054.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-05 10:55 EDT-0400

 

[geofelt]

Your psu is not going to do the job.
The 3080 card is an overclocked unit that needs at least 750w:
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3080-VENTUS-3X-10G-OC/Specification

 

[logainofhades]

Compatible yes, ideal no. Do you already have said 3080? I wouldn't be buying one today. 10gb is going to age poorly. That motherboard is not going to handle future upgrades very well, with it's poor power delivery config. Terrible quality PSU. IIRC the P3 plus is a dramless QLC drive. Ram is a bit on the slow side, for AM5. That case has terrible airflow. It is essentially the same case as the QL500.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n80GxU-Zs&t=15s


Simply put that is a waste of $1k.

 

[tomindful]

Compatible yes, ideal no. Do you already have said 3080? I wouldn't be buying one today. 10gb is going to age poorly. That motherboard is not going to handle future upgrades very well, with it's poor power delivery config. Terrible quality PSU. IIRC the P3 plus is a dramless QLC drive. Ram is a bit on the slow side, for AM5. That case has terrible airflow. It is essentially the same case as the QL500.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n80GxU-Zs&t=15s


Simply put that is a waste of $1k.

I've taken everything in this thread under consideration, and have made a new list. Please give feedback.
Also, I do not already own the 3080, I just thought it's the best ray tracing card for my price point. If you know otherwise, please say so.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NWqLL9

 

[bolshevik420]

I've taken everything in this thread under consideration, and have made a new list. Please give feedback.
Also, I do not already own the 3080, I just thought it's the best ray tracing card for my price point. If you know otherwise, please say so.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NWqLL9

I have a Thermaltake Versa - it's an awful thing. Cheap, no cable management, you name it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M2dj9c - I kept the Crucial P3 Plus from your earlier list, and put a few more dollars into the case and power supply.

If I could, I'd really suggest getting off of a 10 gig 3080 though - you won't be able to do much ray tracing at higher settings, even with DLSS - all of these things require more VRAM than simple raster. Ray Tracing isn't really a useful feature below a certain price point, and that price point is presently ~$600 US. And even then, you're left with an abbreviated VRAM buffer by Nvidia.

If it's possible to find a 12 gig 3080, it'd make a big difference in the long run. Failing that, just go buy a 7800XT. It'll be a useful card for much longer in just about every possible way.

 

[Eximo]

$440 RTX 4060 TI 16GB
$420 I think the 3080 isn't a terrible choice as it beats out the 4060Ti in ray tracing for about the same money.
7800XT is at $480 roughly ties the RTX 4070 at $530.
7900 GRE at $540 isn't a bad choice either.
For just RT, the 4070 Super would be something to push for, but that is sitting at $590.

 

[35below0]

Bump up your budget to $1500 and you will have much less to compromise on. Not only that, but it is the only way to get decent RT performance. The 4060 GPUs are too weak to consider. You need a 4070 Super or 4070 Ti and they start around $600 and only go up from there.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($279.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 3 67.62 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1493.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-05 17:10 EDT-0400

For $1000

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($154.65 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Redline ST 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($61.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $952.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-05 17:08 EDT-0400

Note - The PSU is the same. It's more powerful than needed but a reliable unit you can use to upgrade to a RTX 50XX GPU next year.

 

[helper800]

I would do it like this with 1k:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($154.65 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($61.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $998.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-06 01:50 EDT-0400

 

[35below0]

Can the RX 7700XT and 7800XT compare favorably with nvidias in terms of Ray Tracing?
For gaming value, they are superior choices in the $300-500 range, but if RT is important, i would think they are lacking. No?

 

[helper800]

Can the RX 7700XT and 7800XT compare favorably with nvidias in terms of Ray Tracing?
For gaming value, they are superior choices in the $300-500 range, but if RT is important, i would think they are lacking. No?

No, they are not comparable to Nvidia's RT performance, but the 7700XT is like ~20-40% faster raster performance then the 4060 which is what ALL games use.

 

[bolshevik420]

Bump up your budget to $1500 and you will have much less to compromise on. Not only that, but it is the only way to get decent RT performance. The 4060 GPUs are too weak to consider. You need a 4070 Super or 4070 Ti and they start around $600 and only go up from there.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($279.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 3 67.62 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1493.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-05 17:10 EDT-0400

For $1000

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($154.65 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Redline ST 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($61.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $952.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-05 17:08 EDT-0400

Note - The PSU is the same. It's more powerful than needed but a reliable unit you can use to upgrade to a RTX 50XX GPU next year.

Focusing on RT performance with a new card @ 1k USD (or even 2k) is really not the best use of funds. 4060s don't have the muscle to actually ray trace, and are readily outclassed by everything else in their price range - I'd hesitate to say that the 4070 is even worth it, when you're paying 600 bucks for 12 gigs of VRAM on a cut down databus... I'd almost rather have a used 3080 Ti. At least that scales well at higher resolutions. RDNA2 remains the best value at that price point, no questions asked.

Similarly, going intel for an upper-midrange build in 2024 feels like wasting money in a different (albeit more performant) manner. Zen 5 is right around the corner, which means we're already seeing price cuts on Zen 4 - AND you can overclock on 120-odd USD motherboards... Not that you really would need it with a 7800x3d

IF we're married to the idea of ray tracing at this price point, here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtPKVW

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-H/M.2+ Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($130.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Total: $1422.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-08 12:14 EDT-0400