$1000 Gaming Build Help

unRaveled

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Hey guys. This is going to be my first gaming computer build and I don't want it to be so expensive at first. So please help me decide on cheap and efficient parts. Please I don't want the parts to have cheap quality and that it would break in less than a year. I would appreciate it if the parts would be long lasting and efficient with a reasonable price. Hope I'm not asking too much. I also made a build myself. You guys can feel free to add in suggestions.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week or next.

Budget Range: $1000 after rebate.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, rendering videos and uploading, doing homework

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, NCIX, Amazon

Location: U.S

Parts Preferences: Doesn't matter as long as the parts are not from a cheap and crappy quality company. I would prefer parts that are reliable and efficient.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Please take in consideration of the parts quality and guys can you check if my parts that I picked are compatible with each other? Also can a HDTV be used as a monitor? If yes than what is the difference would happen if I used a HDTV instead of a regular computer monitor. Sorry for the questions and needs. This is my first computer build and I would like to learn as much as possible and so next time I can pick myself and be less of a bother.

Here are the parts that I picked:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bPtE

Also is the Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 better than the MSI Radeon 7850?

Thanks -unRaveled

 
Your list is quite good. You need not change anything.

That said, here are my thoughts:

1) The 2500K is a very effective cpu. If you are near a microcenter, they will sell you one for $170.
Or, a 3570K which is a bit faster for $190.

2) Nothing wrong with a X68 based motherboard, but I might look for one with the newer Z77 chip. Because the chip integrates more functions, a Z77 motherboard will be similarly priced. For example the ASRock Z77 Pro3 is $95:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157297

3) I might go with the low profile version of ram. It is a bit cheaper, and will not interfere with coolers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544

4) The WD blue is a bit slower than the black. But, would you consider a SSD? At least initially. It will make everything you do feel so much faster.
120gb will hold the OS and 6-8 games. It will cost about $1 per gb. If you will store large files, like video's, then a hard drive is really better for that. A hard drive can be added later when the current inflated prices come back down.

5) a 7850 only needs a 500w psu:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7850/Pages/radeon-7850.aspx#/2
The Corsair builder series are good and inexpensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

6) Here is some interesting info on HDTV vs. monitors: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2499874#post2499874 The monitor is one place where I think you should spend what you need to. It will be with you for several generations of pc's. See if you can't go to a store and actually compare , live, different displays for quality that suits you.

7) If you are a student with a .edu e-mail address, look into a windows academic license that is cheaper.

8) As to differences in 7850 brands, the guts are the same, differing only in custom cooler designs. The support and warranties may differ. Check the support forums to see what problems there are, and, more importantly, how the vendor addresses them. EVGA, for instance has a very good support reputation. You might want to build using integrated graphics and wait for their GTX660.

-----------good luck-----------------
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Biostar TZ77B ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($55.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($129.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.65 @ Amazon)
Total: $997.53
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

The MSI card is no longer $209.99 after MIR. If you click the newegg price it's $267.55, after shipping, with a free Dirt Showdown game card.
 
@TheBigTroll thanks for the suggestions. I might take in consideration some of your suggestions.

@geofelt thanks for your in length explanations. It really helped a lot. Very insightful. Also would the 500w be enough for overclocking the gpu and cpu together or does it have to be each alone? Unfortunately I don't live near a microcenter but I might go near one.

@cbsevenfifty thanks for your suggestions. Sucks that the MSI card is not $209.99 anymore. Thanks for your GPU suggestion!

 
And also I would like to ask. Is modular really necessary? If I got a non-modular PSU, what would happen? Would I be able to put the wires aside without it disturbing the air flow? Would you pick modular or non-modular or it doesn't really matter?
 
non-modular: usually cheaper price.all cables are hard wired to the unit and its not removable. the disadvantage is you get this big bundle of cables that you will need to hide inside the case

semi-modular: comes with all the cables that you are 100% going to use hard wired. the rest is modular. the price is in the middle of fully modular psu s and a non-modular psu. i prefer these units
 


Modular is not usually necessary. For a properly sized psu, you are going to use most of the leads anyway. Modular is nice for a small form factor case, but really not necessary in a mid sized case. You can usually leave unused leads on the bottom of the case, or stuffed into an unused drive bay.
 
Same build as before, just swapped the PSU with a 600W for just $4 more. 500W is recommended for the 7850 but since you are OCing its recommended to have a bit more juice.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Biostar TZ77B ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($129.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.65 @ Amazon)
Total: $1001.54
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

When it comes to modular vs non modular it shouldn't really matter with a quality case. I just pick w/e is priced good and right now there just happens to be good deals on the PCP&C MK3 (Seasonic) modular PSU's.
 
cbseventyfifty's build should be ok. id change some things though

1: for the motherboard, id get a p8z77-v LK from asus instead. it at least doesnt have the usb3 plug right next the the PCI-E slots. plus, asus always makes good products espically motherboards

2:for the screen, the vs228h-p is only 10 dollars more and it is much thinner and a bit more energy efficent.

3: id get a asus 7850 since i know the cooler is great but the sapphire one is still good
 


He's not SLI'ing so paying $40+ more for a board meant for SLI makes no sense at all.

You can change it to a Z75/Z77 Pro3, P8Z77-V LX, or the GA-Z77-D3H if you are worried about the lay out of the board. The Biostar isn't the best laid out board but for $84.99 it's dumb to pass up on it just for that reason.
 


1 USB connector is not going to make it look like a cabling nightmare. And if you noticed the build I suggested is $1001, and thats with the discounted price on the processor from microcenter, which he unfortunately cant get. So thats $40 more on to the cost. And every board I mentioned is more expensive than the TZ77B, with the exception of the Z75 Pro3 which is the same price since now you don't get the free S&H on the Biostar any more. Which means that $1000 budget just became an ~$1100 budget.

The only thing left to do is to take that "Maybe" for overclocking and make it a solid "No."