$1000 Gaming Build Help

[unRaveled]

Hey guys. This is going to be my first gaming computer build and I don't want it to be so expensive at first. So please help me decide on cheap and efficient parts. Please I don't want the parts to have cheap quality and that it would break in less than a year. I would appreciate it if the parts would be long lasting and efficient with a reasonable price. Hope I'm not asking too much. I also made a build myself. You guys can feel free to add in suggestions.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week or next.

Budget Range: $1000 after rebate.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, rendering videos and uploading, doing homework

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, NCIX, Amazon

Location: U.S

Parts Preferences: Doesn't matter as long as the parts are not from a cheap and crappy quality company. I would prefer parts that are reliable and efficient.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Please take in consideration of the parts quality and guys can you check if my parts that I picked are compatible with each other? Also can a HDTV be used as a monitor? If yes than what is the difference would happen if I used a HDTV instead of a regular computer monitor. Sorry for the questions and needs. This is my first computer build and I would like to learn as much as possible and so next time I can pick myself and be less of a bother.

Here are the parts that I picked:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bPtE

Also is the Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 better than the MSI Radeon 7850?

Thanks -unRaveled

 

[TheBigTroll]

crossfire can run on x4 slots

 

[cbsevenfifty]

I'm well aware of that. The TZ77B is also x16/x4. It's not recommended to buy a x16/x4 board for SLI/Crossfire. It's not worth it.

 

[opteron1983]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bRnF


My bad heres the build with a case

i tried to keep everything as balanced as possible for the budget while repecting all the required components.

Cpu : i used the stock cooler for now as you will be able to run pretty much whatever you want right now

changed the monitor and power supply to compensate

 

[mouse24]

x4 is perfectly fine @ 3.0, thats equal to x8 at 2.0

 

[cbsevenfifty]

It's 2.0.

 

[mouse24]

Ah derp, my bad. I should google board part numbers before spouting stuff

 

[unRaveled]

If I didn't overclock, then what suggestions would you guys have?
Also if you overclock, how much more faster or more FPS would your gaming get? Is overclocking worth it or does it just give a small amount of change?

 

[TheBigTroll]

no oc? you would get a msi h77ma g43 and a i5 3450

overclocking the CPU wont really help with games but it will help in other multimedia tasks or anything CPU related. overclocking the graphics card can get you from 4-10fps boost depending on how much you overclock

 

[unRaveled]

Without ocing would I still get a good amount of FPS and good outside gaming performance?

 

[TheBigTroll]

yes. OC just lets you futureproof yourself a little more

 

[unRaveled]

So guys, here's my final gaming build. With all your suggestions, I switched some parts and here's the final result. Is this good enough and are they compatible with each other? Is this enough to overclock or so? Feel free for opinions.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bQBg

 

[TheBigTroll]

its good. i changed the ram, the video card, and the monitor

i changed the ram just becase i personally think they look better but its up to you to decide

i changed the video card to the asus 7850. both the sapphire and asus are about as good but i generally trust the directcu2 cooler and asus more than sapphire. im pretty sure that asus used a non-reference PCB as well compared to sapphire (i might be wrong) which helps with better overclocking

i changed the monitor just because the vs series are thinner and use less power. they are within 10 dollars of price difference

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bVBc

 

[unRaveled]

@TheBigTroll thanks for the suggestions. I think I'll take them but let me ask you a question. The Sapphire has a core clock of 920Mhz and the Asus has a core clock of 870 Mhz. Does this mean that the sapphire runs faster and performs better? If so wouldn't the sapphire be better than the Asus within the same price?

 

[unRaveled]

And also whats the difference between the i5 2500k and the i5 3570k? Why do they have a big price range? I've heard that the i5 2500k has a better overclocking potential. Their ghz only differ alittle bit so wouldn't the 2500k be better?

 

[TheBigTroll]

the sapphire card runs at 920mhz because sapphire factory OC the card to 920mhz. asus hardly OC their graphics card from the factory making the card run at 870mhz. straight from the factory, the sapphire card wins. after you OC the card to the same speed, they perform the same. either one will be fine. its personal choice

there isnt much difference between the 3570k and the 2500k. the 3570k just has more features like native usb3, PCI-E 3, and it is 5-8% faster. OC doesnt make much of a difference. a ivy bridge 4.2ghz is the same thing as a sandy bridge at 4.5/4.6ghz. when overclocking ivy bridge, dont change the voltage too much as voltage makes ivy bridge run very hot due to compacted transistors and that intel uses thermal paste under the lid rather than the 2500k where they used fluxless solder

 

[geofelt]

And also whats the difference between the i5 2500k and the i5 3570k? Why do they have a big price range? I've heard that the i5 2500k has a better overclocking potential. Their ghz only differ alittle bit so wouldn't the 2500k be better?

The 3570K will be more efficient, clock for clock. Perhaps 5% worth.

 

[levi78]

$209 @ NEWEGG

MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB
$240 - $30 MIR (expires 7/18/12) plus you get Dirt SHOWDOWN ($60) value

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-TechBargains&cm_mmc=AFC-TechBargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16814127663

 

[TheBigTroll]

twin frozer is great too

 

[unRaveled]

Alright guys thanks for all your advice! So if I were to build and assemble all these parts together, they would all work together right? And will this case be able to let me assemble the parts on it? I'm worried that what happens if some wires couldn't reach some place. Would this case make that a problem or no? Also please give tips on assembling the parts together as to this is going to be my first gaming computer build. I wouldn't want anything to go wrong so yea 😛.

 

[TheBigTroll]

just list out the parts that you plan on using and we will confirm

i know my builds work out 😀

 

[unRaveled]

Here are my parts. Their all in this partpicker website:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/c77P

I know your build is good but I'm like in a budget somewhat. And it's my first build. I wanna kinda pick my own parts and know them first since I can learn something or so. I'm not saying that your build is bad or so. 😛

 

[geofelt]

Here are my parts. Their all in this partpicker website:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/c77P

I know your build is good but I'm like in a budget somewhat. And it's my first build. I wanna kinda pick my own parts and know them first since I can learn something or so. I'm not saying that your build is bad or so. 😛

Very good!!

 

[unRaveled]

geofelt so the components should work together no problem right? And assembling the parts should be easy too?

Thanks for the awesome comment!

 

[geofelt]

geofelt so the components should work together no problem right? And assembling the parts should be easy too?

Thanks for the awesome comment!

Parts are keyed to only fit one way. Don't force anything.
Take the time now to download and read, cover to cover the case and motherboard manuals.

-good luck----------

 

[TheBigTroll]

your parts sound good. id get a vs228h-p monitor instead of the ve228h since the vs series is much thinner and is a newer model of the ve series. only 10 dollars more