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Im having trouble finding a LCD monitor that can do 100 hz refresh rate. It doesnt need to be at high resolutions either... im looking for one that does 100 on 800x600 because thats the res i game at. Also one that has a low response time, the lower the better. And preferably $250 or less, i dont really care about size all that much.

Hopefully someone could link me some choices. Thanks in advance.
 
LCD are limited to 60 hz and when nothing is happening on the screen the refresh rate is 0hz. Any lcd will do cause they all now have low refresh rate. LCD are different from CRT dude you dont need 100hz and besides 82hz on a crt is enuff.
 
Correct! The only screens that I know that are higher are the High end HDTV with 120hz. But do you really want to spend 2000.00+ for 50" screen?
Plus you'ld have to run the game @ 1920x1080 and only high end gaming rigs will run these resolutions at high frame rates.
So grab a decent 19" monitor and enjoy the crispness of LCD try to stay around the 2ms responce time.
 
You can get 75Hz LCD panels, but you can not get 100Hz LCD panels. you can get weird 120Hz TV panels, but they are really 60Hz panels with twice the LCD 'fun'.

Besides, the previous poster was right in that the refresh rates in a LCD do not have the same visual results as a CRTs refresh rate changes.

The beam travels in a linear path, there is a fixed time it takes to get from pixel #1 to pixel #1000000 on a CRT, but you can flip an LCD element independent of an activating beam at almost any time.

LCDs use a weird prediction algorithm, basically educated guessing about which pixel might be lit up or not, to simulate the desirable effects of a high refresh rate... preventing ghosting "texture tearing" etc. etc. It's not the same and it looks like crap compared to a CRT, so I know why you are looking for technology that doesn't exist.
 
look thats fine if they arent made, you answered my question... but dont come here telling me that there is no difference between 60, 85, 100hz, etc...

you can have great fps in a game because thats what your video card is spitting out. however the monitor only can limit what you see. You need your monitor to work in sync with your rig. If you only have your hz at 60/75/85, you will only see 60/75/85 fps... trust me, either research it or go on believing what you believe. Or even go do your own research, go into a game like CS with a 100hz CRT, and then try it with a 60/75/85hz monitor and tell me there isn't a difference. Turn your mouse, realize how much smoother it turns. The gameplay is much smoother because you are seeing it at a true 100fps.

Im not going to lie that the picture is much clearer on LCD's, but refresh rate makes all the difference when you play competitively for money, so thats the simple question i was asking. Is there an LCD that offers 100hz at 800x600... thnx for the answer but i didn't need to be talked down to because i know what i am talking about.
 
Your eye can see a difference from 60Hz to 100Hz? Hmm... guess you have better eyes than me. I don't see a difference from 60 to 75, let alone 100.
 
I agree with you 100% gab20, i use to game at 120hz on my crt now i have a 2ms 22" LCD and it's just not the same i too notice the difference in FPS visuals, and am also searching for a LCD that can = CRT in that aspect of display weather or not it's called Hz ultimately a comparison can b drawn and LCD's seam only capable of a max 75Hz (2ms) witch honestly doesn’t cut it in FPSs
 
Concur gab20 on visual effects - But you could go for an attidue adj.
(1) some can see flicker at 60 hz (florecent tubes use to give some a headeach
(2) scan rate can have the same effect as # of colors displayed - You may not be able to see the differnce between adjacent shades, but overall the picture looks better
(3) the 60 Hz panel refresh was adapted do to the Response times of the older panels - they could not handle a higher rate. Theoritically a 5ms reponse time should handle 250 Hz (1/2 0f 1/5 x 10 to neg3) - never happen GI

(4) the below advertizes vertical Refresh Rate 56~75Hz BUT not sure GPU card will allow increasing (Have 4870 w/512meg)

(5) No way in H double LL will you find one cheap. The below Monitor is whate I have and it was $420.
As previously indicaded some 1080P HDTVs have a 120 Hz refresh rate _ But to get tru 120 Hz, the card has to be able to send it. 1080 P data rate at 120 is much greater than 525 lines @ 120 Hz.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001280
Brightness 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio DC 10000:1(1000:1)
Response Time 5ms
Horizontal Refresh Rate 30~81kHz
Vertical Refresh Rate 56~75Hz

Edited - added
Please forgive spelling - trying to get out of here (Work) and get home
 
the pixel response is the biggest factor for an lcd, a slower response time will without a doubt create a blury video, which crt's do not suffer from. If you were to use a crt below 75 hz you'd say seem crazy things going on and create massive amounts of eyestrain yet this same "speed" as you say doesn't affect lcd's, you're comparing apples to oranges...
 
I know this post is way old but i just had to respond, because i have been running FPS game servers and playing them competitivly for over 10 years now and Gab20 is right on with what he said. 75,80 and even 90 htz and 100 htz is the difference between getting fragged or fragging the enemy.

And to answer "lcaley's" response "Your eye can see a difference from 60Hz to 100Hz? Hmm... guess you have better eyes than me. I don't see a difference from 60 to 75, let alone 100"

Yes we can see the difference because we have trained are eyes to be able to see that difference by practicing our craft for many hours a day. I have played DoD (dayofdefeat) since the game first came out in 2001 for a minimum of 2 hours a day and when in competition, sometimes more then 8 hours a day or a few days in a row. When you play at that level of skill in CAL or the CPL you realize that you have a huge disadvantage if you have 70,80 or 90 fps and your attacker has 100.

Until the LCD companies find a way to deliver a 100 cycle LCD monitor they will lose a huge market share which are the gamers.

Do not forget that it's the gamers who have driven every single aspect of new computer technology since the creation of the GUI. So you all have us to thank for that. Keep on fragging Gab20.
 
u can see the diffrence on 3D movie where 100 hz is minimum. if u play the movie on 75 hz u don't see the effect or u see it but not so good and your eyes will burn u after few minutes.
 
http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/641/
is a very old post but helps to make the difference between 50-100 hz

gab here are 2 models
http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/08/26/viewsonic-120hz-vx2265wm-lcd-prototype-revealed/
http://www.clutchkills.com/videos/samsung-2233rz-review/
 
Just to point this out, if I may, about 3D glasses. I bought a pair off of E Dimensional some time ago and was severly dissappointed in them. According to E Dimensional, no major hardware upgrade was needed for their glasses (Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt a moniter a major upgrade?!). The glasses need a refresh rate of at least 100Mhz on the moniter (it's mentioned a 70Hz moniter is recommended minimum on the web site). I have a Benq v772 (CRT) and a Acer AL1717 (LCD) moniters by the way (Only one in use at a time). I used Oblivion to initially test the glasses and the frame rate was so choppy that the game was mostly unplayable. The glasses faired better on Flatout, but only on a 640x480 @ 75Hz resoulution. All in all, without a moniter capable of 100Mhz+, the glasses proved to be a hinderence rather than a enhancment. Just thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in.
 


Just quickly move the mouse cursor over the screen. You'll see that the cursor seems to twinkle: it disappears in one place and appears again some inches away. I want to have curor appearing as a moving object.
 
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