1035G1+MX350 in late 2020 vs 4500U?

[Prad_Bitt]

Hi. Laptops cost a ton where I live. I wanted a light albeit decent performing one for college with a good battery life. I don't really care about touchscreen and stuff but that's nice to have sure. I have a desktop for heavy needs so no need for gaming laptops. Just thin and light. I'm open to suggestions but there is one laptop : https://www.amazon.in/dp/B087D47QXB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dlT_-yrOFbD0TPPHW

This has a 60Wh battery, which is great and I read somewhere a 100% sRGB 14" display, which is perfect. And it's light, and has an MX350, 8 GB RAM and 512GB SSD. The only concern is the i5-1035G1. I don't know if that's worth the price they're asking, because for around the same price (+40/50$) I can get an Asus ZenBook 14 with 4500U: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B08CKZZL1K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qArOFbHVYJM12

Bigger battery, and lighter. I don't really care about graphics much because I have a desktop. Please help me choose between these two.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

My requirements: Good battery life, lightweight, good build quality, decent performance, good screen, 512GB SSD

Unnecessary: touch screen, 360° hinge, powerful GPU

Purpose: College work and maybe data science, no gaming or rendering, have desktop for that.

Option 1: Lenovo Yoga 7i (i5+MX350) :
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B087D47QXB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dlT_p1tOFbAQCRX9P

Option 2: ZenBook 14 (4500U):
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B08CKZZL1K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_h2tOFbTTCJC66


Don't consider the price difference between these two, they're both US $1000 where I live. I am open to new suggestions. Thanks for any help

 

[mitch074]

The 4500U is a very nice CPU, and when properly configured it trades blows with the MX350. However neither of these have upgradeable RAM - on such a machine I'd recommend to go with 16 Gb right away.
What software are you going to use? If said software make use of stuff like CUDA or QuickSync, then go Lenovo. If you need more raw CPU power, the Zenbook is better.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

The 4500U is a very nice CPU, and when properly configured it trades blows with the MX350. However neither of these have upgradeable RAM - on such a machine I'd recommend to go with 16 Gb right away.
What software are you going to use? If said software make use of stuff like CUDA or QuickSync, then go Lenovo. If you need more raw CPU power, the Zenbook is better.

I actually don't know much because I haven't started looking into it. I haven't even gotten into college yet, thanks to covid delays. The non upgradable RAM wasn't known to me, thanks for that! And can you recommend which is overall better for 1. Longevity, and 2. Dtaa science?

 

[mitch074]

I actually don't know much because I haven't started looking into it. I haven't even gotten into college yet, thanks to covid delays. The non upgradable RAM wasn't known to me, thanks for that! And can you recommend which is overall better for 1. Longevity, and 2. Dtaa science?

I would say the Ryzen-based one should be better for 'generic' data science due to its 6 cores. However, depending on the app, the Intel+Nvidia one might be better due to the Nvidia chip having basic support for CUDA. But it really depends on the software you'll need to use.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

I would say the Ryzen-based one should be better for 'generic' data science due to its 6 cores. However, depending on the app, the Intel+Nvidia one might be better due to the Nvidia chip having basic support for CUDA. But it really depends on the software you'll need to use.

Considering I have a desktop with R5 3600 and 2070 S, should I just bet on the 4500U?

 

[mitch074]

Considering I have a desktop with R5 3600 and 2070 S, should I just bet on the 4500U?

There's a reason why the Ryzen 4000 took the world of laptops by storm... It's a very good chip. If you can find a 16 Gb version of that laptop, get it.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

There's a reason why the Ryzen 4000 took the world of laptops by storm... It's a very good chip. If you can find a 16 Gb version of that laptop, get it.

Okay, so I think I'll keep the 16 gb Zenbook as a top option
Second would be HP x360 because it has upgradable RAM

I'm gonna ditch the Yoga

 

[g-unit1111]

The Ryzen 5 4500U is by far the better CPU than the i5-1035G1 is. The 4500U is more in line with a desktop CPU whereas the i5 is more of an ultrabook / tablet CPU.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

The Ryzen 5 4500U is by far the better CPU than the i5-1035G1 is. The 4500U is more in line with a desktop CPU whereas the i5 is more of an ultrabook / tablet CPU.

Yes it's more like the 3500 desktop CPU in small form factor. I'm gonna go with a 4500U, just looking for 16 gigs of RAM in that ZenBook

 

[g-unit1111]

Yes it's more like the 3500 desktop CPU in small form factor. I'm gonna go with a 4500U, just looking for 16 gigs of RAM in that ZenBook

I bought an HP Omen with a Ryzen 7 4800H a few months ago and this thing is a beast of a CPU. Easily the fastest CPU I've ever had in a laptop.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

I bought an HP Omen with a Ryzen 7 4800H a few months ago and this thing is a beast of a CPU. Easily the fastest CPU I've ever had in a laptop.

Man the HP x360 would've been perfect... The battery is just a tad too small and driving me to the Zenbook. Plus the glossy display... I hate glossy displays

 

[g-unit1111]

Man the HP x360 would've been perfect... The battery is just a tad too small and driving me to the Zenbook. Plus the glossy display... I hate glossy displays

I'm not a big fan either. I've had them on laptops before and the glare is just too much.