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I've recently brought a GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition which replaced a GTX 780 and I've installed it into my system which contains of:

i7 4790k
Asus Z97-PRO GAMER
16 GB 1600 Mhz RAM (corsair)
250GB Crucial SSD and 1TB HDD
PSU 750W

I also thought it will be a good idea to upgrade to Win 10 Pro due to Dx12... So I've reformated and reinstalled all my games and I'm disappointed... In battlefield 1 I'm getting around 80 FPS in quite closed areas and in the outside areas (when playing as a sniper etc) I get about 60 FPS which sometimes even drops to about 40 FPS... I was expecting BF1 to run on ultra on about 100 FPS as on GTX 780 on high/medium settings I've been getting around 50-60...

In borderlands 2 in fights I've been gettin drops to 30 FPS where when not in a fight I get about 140FPS on ultra settings 4k?


Considering that the i7 4790K after overclocking is pretty much top-end hardware, I don't think it would be a bottleneck without the overclock?

My friend has told me that he heard about issue with 1080 Ti's where there is some new nVidia setting that causes the low FPS but I've went through all settings and everything seemed ok to me?

Update: Just tested Ghost Recon Wildlands on ultra settings I get 40-50 FPS while driving and 50-65 FPS while standing still...

Is it possible that my motherboard isn't compatible with the 1080 Ti?
 
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I'm not aware that I was saying anything directly about 1080P.

The 52 - 58.6 FPS result in Tom's review is for 4k, Ultra, DX12.

Tom's 1080 Ti review doesn't even include benchmark numbers for 1080P resolution in BF1.

Also, something the review leaves out which seems a tad relevant is, what is the resolution scanning option set to. I have done about 2 minutes investigation into what that even is, as I don't play any Battlefield games, and I suspect it's not working the way you think it is. My understanding is that when you...
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In ghost recon make sure 'turf effects' is off as it eats fps. In general tho don't test using wildlands as its pretty badly optimized anyway.

Pretty unlikely the cpu is bottlenecking so your right there in bf1 so thats unlikely.

Fully uninstall geforce experience and see if that fixes it. I have often accidentally installed geforce experience with new drivers and it kills my games fps etc so just test that out and see if it fixes it, let us know how that goes!

Actually it might be worth experimenting with upping your resolution scaling in nvidia control panel. Under dsr settings crank it up to 1.25 then 1.50 and run tests on each and see if your fps will increase. it should trick the gpu into thinking its rendering at a higher resolution and thus making it work harder and may bypass cpu bottleknecking if that is the case at 1080p resolution.
 
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"it should trick the gpu into thinking its rendering at a higher resolution and thus making it work harder and may bypass cpu bottleknecking if that is the case at 1080p resolution." That wont change the FPS in any way? All it will do is push the card harder than it needs to be pushed, resulting in higher temps and fan speeds.
 
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I uninstalled Geforce Experience but no difference.

I tried the DSR 1.20 and 1.50 but no difference and it caused my BF1 to go stopped responding(crash)

I guess the 1080 Ti should run BF1 on all the settings set to maximum in high FPS? or is there maybe a setting that is causing this in the acctual game?

I'm thinking maybe should I run some benchmarks and look at the scores on there?
 
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Not really true for the record. If the gpu is giving poor fps it could be at low utilization and thus making the card work harder for an up-scaled resolution could aid in bringing in higher fps. This is especially possible when the gpu is as powerful as a 1080 ti which could understand a low resolution like 1080p as not enough for it to pump out much of its potential and thus handing off graphics power to cpu tasking etc and slowing down overall performance.


 
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okay that's unfortunate. Did you do what others suggested with a full driver uninstall with DDU then updating the drivers again upon the restart?

Personally I always refuse to install 'gforce experience' with drivers as it messes up all my games for some reason so be aware of that if needs be.

I really cant see the cpu bottleknecking it but other people that mentioed the cpu and they might have more experience with it so dont put that one off the table.

You're correct in assuming the 1080 ti should max every single game you throw at it especially at 1080p. Tbh the min fps in 99% of games should be 100fps worst case scenario. Basically no setting should be dropping you to those fps' with that card.



 
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That doesn't make any sense. :no: The CPU and GPU do the separate tasks they're selected for.
By upping the resolution all you're doing is having the GPU do more of the work it's already doing to push out more pixels. The GPU doesn't decide whether to work or not. The CPU just passes on any graphics processing to the GPU. In fact, making the GPU do more work than it needs to leading to high utilization is more likely to mean the CPU ends up doing graphics processing.

More importantly, he's already posted CPU/GPU utilization above, which shows his CPU isn't doing much work.
BF1
GPU usage is 99-97%
CPU cores usage is about 50-75%

Ghost Recon Wildlands
GPU usage is 80-95%
CPU usage is about 5-10% lower to BF1
 
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I obviously missed the post with those gpu details.

Im trying to give suggestions to help mate, all of these things have helped me at different points and its never a black and white answer because different games use the cpu and gpu to different extents.

I made a mistake not seeing the utilization post but he's already tested that out to no avail with dsr so these replies are just wasting space on this thread. Just try and help the op.
 
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I'd do this... put the 780 back in and see how it behaves. Does it get the same fps it did before the upgrade? If not, your problem lies elsewhere.

If so, I would RMA the card.

In BF1 with an inferior CPU and a 1070, I run 1080p/high at upwards of 140fps in many cases. There's no way you should be getting a lower framerate than me.
 
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Yes. on ultra I should be getting average 150FPS looking at benchmarks etc.

I'm just wondering about the resoultion scanning option in game as that is set to 200% which means the GPU will render the game in 4k before scaling it down to 1080p so the level of details will be greatly improved. I can drop this to 100% which will put me to about 100FPS but that is still not it....

I wont try swapping the card back to the 780 just yet as I'm just in process of troubleshooting with Nvidia... but their service is so slow...

If anyone has any more suggestions what could I try in the meantime I'm more than happy to listen...
 
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Benchmarks have to be taken with much salt. Unlike proper scientific experiments, people basing their expectations on benchmarks often expect the same results using both different hardware and different software settings.

Try running the card with different settings or being realistic in your expectations. Tom's own review of the 1080 Ti in BF1 using the DX 12 API at 2k resolution shows it only managing 94 - 103.5 FPS, and at 4k resolution the 1080 Ti manages 52 - 58.6 FPS.

I have looked at the Tom's article briefly, and I can find neither the full hardware manifest nor software settings used when they tested BF1, other than the Ultra preset being used. You're welcome to look for yourself:

Tom's 1080 Ti BF1 review page

Your measured numbers are pretty clear in that, your GPU is at or near it's limit in BF1. Your CPU is most likely nowhere near the point at which it's bottlenecking your GPU in BF1. Even a conservative overclock should confirm that if it's a concern. All you can do at this point is change some of the settings in the game or in the NVIDIA control panel that will alleviate some of the work you have been asking the card to do, leaving those resources free for the GPU to spend on other portions of it's workload.
 
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So you're saying that the best single GPU on the market will not run newest games in stable more than 60 FPS in 1080p?
on 2K resolultion they are getting 100FPS which means in 1080p I should be getting 120+

 
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I'm not aware that I was saying anything directly about 1080P.

The 52 - 58.6 FPS result in Tom's review is for 4k, Ultra, DX12.

Tom's 1080 Ti review doesn't even include benchmark numbers for 1080P resolution in BF1.

Also, something the review leaves out which seems a tad relevant is, what is the resolution scanning option set to. I have done about 2 minutes investigation into what that even is, as I don't play any Battlefield games, and I suspect it's not working the way you think it is. My understanding is that when you set it to 100% in BF1 (the setting of the same name in BF4 apparently does not behave the same way,) you're actually going to be running at a 2k resolution behind the scenes, which is then scaled to 1080P for final output. If that's the case, your numbers seem to line up pretty closely with Tom's numbers at 2k, from what I can see.

If your output resolution is 1080P, which I believe you mentioned earlier it is, then setting the resolution scanning option to at or around 42% will cause the game to actually be rendered internally at 1080P.

Don't ask me why this is, I didn't code the game or the setting.
 
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I am having the same problem. I also have a i5 4790K paired with a 1080 Ti Founder's Edition. I'm trying to run ME:A and GR:W on ultra at 1080p, and can't get a stable 60 FPS. My monitor can do 144 Hz, but FPS is even more inconsistent and unstable the higher I set the refresh rate, so I've tried to stick with 60 Hz. And I keep getting dips into the 50s. It's really frustrating. The only thing I haven't tried is the suggestion in this thread to get a higher res monitor, but that just's an expensive option.
 
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I apologize. I thought adding similar experience to the discussion would help troubleshoot the problem, as we've probably both tried different solutions. It seems like pooling similar issues would lead us to problem-solve together - I would be afraid that one of us might wind up finding resolution without the other seeing it as well. I'll delete my previous post and stick to waiting for responses in my own thread. Thanks for letting me know how things work.

Edit: Actually, I'm not sure how to delete my first message. I just won't comment further.
 
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Yes, I confirm, did some digging on the resolution scale and found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/50b4m1/psa_42_resolution_scale_is_your_native_res/?st=j0vhai8c&sh=eb092fb9

So I was technically playing in 2k at all time which brings the FPS close to what Tom Got on his review which does make sense as my CPU isnt overclocked yet ;]

Thanks everyone for help, hope some other people will find this thread usefull too.

UPDATE: According to what people say on there 42% should be your native res. I found mine is at 100%. Its easy to check what you acctualy render your game at by typing in the console 'render.drawscreeninfo 1' and then playing with the resolution scaling.
 
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Sorry, I thought I said this already. In borderlands 2 I found out that there is something wrong with PsyhX set on highest quality will cause close combat to be dropping frames. After I reduced it to high/normal it was all normal and stable.
 
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No need to delete it. I didn't mean to sound as harsh as I may have come across. It's good to get communal participation it the thread. The reason I feel you should have your own thread is so that we can focus specifically on your issues. While they may seem similar, and indeed could very well be, we have to diagnose both issues separately to make that determination. I also feel it's best not to distract from the OP's thread, as folks can inadvertently conflate original issues with yours more easily and get distracted from what may otherwise be a simple solution to the OP's original issue.

More helpful, I believe, would be to have a link to this thread, in your own thread, so we could reference it, without distracting our focus from helping you directly, if that makes sense. 🙂
 
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Makes perfect sense. I will remember that in the future. Thanks!
 
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dude, before you say something you should at least think if it makes sense.
 
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thank you for this! I had the exact same problem, when I checked this I found out that I was playing at 4k resolution on my 1080p monitor. now I'm getting 120+ fps.
 
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