1080 Ti Low FPS?

[Pablix360]

I've recently brought a GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition which replaced a GTX 780 and I've installed it into my system which contains of:

i7 4790k
Asus Z97-PRO GAMER
16 GB 1600 Mhz RAM (corsair)
250GB Crucial SSD and 1TB HDD
PSU 750W

I also thought it will be a good idea to upgrade to Win 10 Pro due to Dx12... So I've reformated and reinstalled all my games and I'm disappointed... In battlefield 1 I'm getting around 80 FPS in quite closed areas and in the outside areas (when playing as a sniper etc) I get about 60 FPS which sometimes even drops to about 40 FPS... I was expecting BF1 to run on ultra on about 100 FPS as on GTX 780 on high/medium settings I've been getting around 50-60...

In borderlands 2 in fights I've been gettin drops to 30 FPS where when not in a fight I get about 140FPS on ultra settings 4k?


Considering that the i7 4790K after overclocking is pretty much top-end hardware, I don't think it would be a bottleneck without the overclock?

My friend has told me that he heard about issue with 1080 Ti's where there is some new nVidia setting that causes the low FPS but I've went through all settings and everything seemed ok to me?

Update: Just tested Ghost Recon Wildlands on ultra settings I get 40-50 FPS while driving and 50-65 FPS while standing still...

Is it possible that my motherboard isn't compatible with the 1080 Ti?

 

[Pablix360]

So you're saying that the best single GPU on the market will not run newest games in stable more than 60 FPS in 1080p?
on 2K resolultion they are getting 100FPS which means in 1080p I should be getting 120+

I'm not aware that I was saying anything directly about 1080P.

The 52 - 58.6 FPS result in Tom's review is for 4k, Ultra, DX12.

Tom's 1080 Ti review doesn't even include benchmark numbers for 1080P resolution in BF1.

Also, something the review leaves out which seems a tad relevant is, what is the resolution scanning option set to. I have done about 2 minutes investigation into what that even is, as I don't play any Battlefield games, and I suspect it's not working the way you think it is. My understanding is that when you set it to 100% in BF1 (the setting of the same name in BF4 apparently does not behave the same way,) you're actually going to be running at a 2k resolution behind the scenes, which is then scaled to 1080P for final output. If that's the case, your numbers seem to line up pretty closely with Tom's numbers at 2k, from what I can see.

If your output resolution is 1080P, which I believe you mentioned earlier it is, then setting the resolution scanning option to at or around 42% will cause the game to actually be rendered internally at 1080P.

Don't ask me why this is, I didn't code the game or the setting.

Yes, I confirm, did some digging on the resolution scale and found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/50b4m1/psa_42_resolution_scale_is_your_native_res/?st=j0vhai8c&sh=eb092fb9

So I was technically playing in 2k at all time which brings the FPS close to what Tom Got on his review which does make sense as my CPU isnt overclocked yet ;]

Thanks everyone for help, hope some other people will find this thread usefull too.

UPDATE: According to what people say on there 42% should be your native res. I found mine is at 100%. Its easy to check what you acctualy render your game at by typing in the console 'render.drawscreeninfo 1' and then playing with the resolution scaling.

thank you for this! I had the exact same problem, when I checked this I found out that I was playing at 4k resolution on my 1080p monitor. now I'm getting 120+ fps.

Happy to help 😉

 

[GPMethod]

So you're saying that the best single GPU on the market will not run newest games in stable more than 60 FPS in 1080p?
on 2K resolultion they are getting 100FPS which means in 1080p I should be getting 120+

I'm not aware that I was saying anything directly about 1080P.

The 52 - 58.6 FPS result in Tom's review is for 4k, Ultra, DX12.

Tom's 1080 Ti review doesn't even include benchmark numbers for 1080P resolution in BF1.

Also, something the review leaves out which seems a tad relevant is, what is the resolution scanning option set to. I have done about 2 minutes investigation into what that even is, as I don't play any Battlefield games, and I suspect it's not working the way you think it is. My understanding is that when you set it to 100% in BF1 (the setting of the same name in BF4 apparently does not behave the same way,) you're actually going to be running at a 2k resolution behind the scenes, which is then scaled to 1080P for final output. If that's the case, your numbers seem to line up pretty closely with Tom's numbers at 2k, from what I can see.

If your output resolution is 1080P, which I believe you mentioned earlier it is, then setting the resolution scanning option to at or around 42% will cause the game to actually be rendered internally at 1080P.

Don't ask me why this is, I didn't code the game or the setting.

Yes, I confirm, did some digging on the resolution scale and found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/50b4m1/psa_42_resolution_scale_is_your_native_res/?st=j0vhai8c&sh=eb092fb9

So I was technically playing in 2k at all time which brings the FPS close to what Tom Got on his review which does make sense as my CPU isnt overclocked yet ;]

Thanks everyone for help, hope some other people will find this thread usefull too.

UPDATE: According to what people say on there 42% should be your native res. I found mine is at 100%. Its easy to check what you acctualy render your game at by typing in the console 'render.drawscreeninfo 1' and then playing with the resolution scaling.

thank you for this! I had the exact same problem, when I checked this I found out that I was playing at 4k resolution on my 1080p monitor. now I'm getting 120+ fps.

Happy to help 😉

If you put the res scale on bf1 to 42% its going to look shit. Im using the Asus and yes I have problems and that's why im here. All ultra settings 100 res scale gives me smooth 150-160fps when i launch the game and play the first round. The 2nd and 3rd round the fps is down at 70-100 and thats bad, very laggy, almost unplayable. I didnt buy the card to turn my settings down.. i have 4790k, 16gb ram, ssd, 750watt psu, bla bla and my 970 card didnt even have this noticeable lag and low fps, its insane.. Who can tell me what's wrong here?

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Setting the resolution scale to 42% causes the game engine to render the game at whatever your current resolution is. Yes, you will have lower quality than rendering at a higher resolution then down sampling it to fit your currently selected resolution. If you have a 4k screen, there's little reason to be rendering more than you're displaying. That's going to drastically reduce performance, and there's a good chance you won't be able to pick out a quality difference while playing. If you have a 1080 screen, you'll probably see the quality difference if you're looking for it, but you're also going to see the noticeable frame rate decrease as well. This at least gives each player the ability to set things where they want, rather than forcing the developer's choice on everyone, and means the game can easily be scaled to maintain playable performance on consoles.

If your 970 gave you better performance, then use that instead.

From what Tom's has shown the game to run at, when rendering at 2k and 4k, your 150 - 160 fps doesn't sound realistic, if you're running a 100% resolution scale in the game, unless your actual screen size is somewhere below 1080.

If the game itself is having issues, and you really do get 150 - 160 fps for the first round, and subsequent rounds don't, it sounds to me like exiting from and reopening the game is the solution. Could be a resource leak somewhere. If it's in the game, I would suspect a restart of your game will clear things back up.

Nobody is telling you to turn the settings down. Set them wherever you want. We're only telling you what to expect with certain settings so that you don't have unrealistic expectations.

 

[GPMethod]

Setting the resolution scale to 42% causes the game engine to render the game at whatever your current resolution is. Yes, you will have lower quality than rendering at a higher resolution then down sampling it to fit your currently selected resolution. If you have a 4k screen, there's little reason to be rendering more than you're displaying. That's going to drastically reduce performance, and there's a good chance you won't be able to pick out a quality difference while playing. If you have a 1080 screen, you'll probably see the quality difference if you're looking for it, but you're also going to see the noticeable frame rate decrease as well. This at least gives each player the ability to set things where they want, rather than forcing the developer's choice on everyone, and means the game can easily be scaled to maintain playable performance on consoles.

If your 970 gave you better performance, then use that instead.

From what Tom's has shown the game to run at, when rendering at 2k and 4k, your 150 - 160 fps doesn't sound realistic, if you're running a 100% resolution scale in the game, unless your actual screen size is somewhere below 1080.

If the game itself is having issues, and you really do get 150 - 160 fps for the first round, and subsequent rounds don't, it sounds to me like exiting from and reopening the game is the solution. Could be a resource leak somewhere. If it's in the game, I would suspect a restart of your game will clear things back up.

Nobody is telling you to turn the settings down. Set them wherever you want. We're only telling you what to expect with certain settings so that you don't have unrealistic expectations.

Thansk for the reply.
Are you playing bf1? If you do, you know you would not like 42% res scale.. i'm using a 1080p monitor 144hz. I know some guys rendering at 100% and gets higher fps and more stable and they have the founders ed. The weird thing is that when I got the card, installed it and played for the first time, it was all good at 100% res scale and ultra settings. I did not get under 110 fps at the lowest! 2 days later it dropped down to 70 at the lowest and that makes the game laggy in my opinion, from 150-120 to 70. The other guys I know have 90 at the lowest, and we have the same setup but Ive got a "better" graphics card and they have 1440p monitors.. The benchmarking I did showed me that the card is working so I don't know..I can also tell you that when I start my pc it takes 2-3 tries, when it finally gets on it says "overclocking failed" without even overclocking anything, I did in the past, but everything is stock now and has been stock for a long time..

 

[Pablix360]

Setting the resolution scale to 42% causes the game engine to render the game at whatever your current resolution is. Yes, you will have lower quality than rendering at a higher resolution then down sampling it to fit your currently selected resolution. If you have a 4k screen, there's little reason to be rendering more than you're displaying. That's going to drastically reduce performance, and there's a good chance you won't be able to pick out a quality difference while playing. If you have a 1080 screen, you'll probably see the quality difference if you're looking for it, but you're also going to see the noticeable frame rate decrease as well. This at least gives each player the ability to set things where they want, rather than forcing the developer's choice on everyone, and means the game can easily be scaled to maintain playable performance on consoles.

If your 970 gave you better performance, then use that instead.

From what Tom's has shown the game to run at, when rendering at 2k and 4k, your 150 - 160 fps doesn't sound realistic, if you're running a 100% resolution scale in the game, unless your actual screen size is somewhere below 1080.

If the game itself is having issues, and you really do get 150 - 160 fps for the first round, and subsequent rounds don't, it sounds to me like exiting from and reopening the game is the solution. Could be a resource leak somewhere. If it's in the game, I would suspect a restart of your game will clear things back up.

Nobody is telling you to turn the settings down. Set them wherever you want. We're only telling you what to expect with certain settings so that you don't have unrealistic expectations.

Thansk for the reply.
Are you playing bf1? If you do, you know you would not like 42% res scale.. i'm using a 1080p monitor 144hz. I know some guys rendering at 100% and gets higher fps and more stable and they have the founders ed. The weird thing is that when I got the card, installed it and played for the first time, it was all good at 100% res scale and ultra settings. I did not get under 110 fps at the lowest! 2 days later it dropped down to 70 at the lowest and that makes the game laggy in my opinion, from 150-120 to 70. The other guys I know have 90 at the lowest, and we have the same setup but Ive got a "better" graphics card and they have 1440p monitors.. The benchmarking I did showed me that the card is working so I don't know..I can also tell you that when I start my pc it takes 2-3 tries, when it finally gets on it says "overclocking failed" without even overclocking anything, I did in the past, but everything is stock now and has been stock for a long time..

Firstly I said for some people 100% res scaling might be at 42% and this is because I read it on another forum while sorting my issue out although I think this is depending on a monitor you use... not sure... but that what they said so I thought its worth to mention if it will help anyone else.

Secondly - your issue - if you get good FPS in first round etc which is average 25min? Maybe the temps get too high on your GPU/CPU? its worth checking. Also you have to consider you will get different FPS depending on the map youre playing so if one round you played one map and in second and third a different one you might see a different result.

What I suggest is monitor your usage and temps for both CPU and GPU and Memory and see if there are any drastic changes when your FPS drops in next rounds...

 

[GPMethod]

Setting the resolution scale to 42% causes the game engine to render the game at whatever your current resolution is. Yes, you will have lower quality than rendering at a higher resolution then down sampling it to fit your currently selected resolution. If you have a 4k screen, there's little reason to be rendering more than you're displaying. That's going to drastically reduce performance, and there's a good chance you won't be able to pick out a quality difference while playing. If you have a 1080 screen, you'll probably see the quality difference if you're looking for it, but you're also going to see the noticeable frame rate decrease as well. This at least gives each player the ability to set things where they want, rather than forcing the developer's choice on everyone, and means the game can easily be scaled to maintain playable performance on consoles.

If your 970 gave you better performance, then use that instead.

From what Tom's has shown the game to run at, when rendering at 2k and 4k, your 150 - 160 fps doesn't sound realistic, if you're running a 100% resolution scale in the game, unless your actual screen size is somewhere below 1080.

If the game itself is having issues, and you really do get 150 - 160 fps for the first round, and subsequent rounds don't, it sounds to me like exiting from and reopening the game is the solution. Could be a resource leak somewhere. If it's in the game, I would suspect a restart of your game will clear things back up.

Nobody is telling you to turn the settings down. Set them wherever you want. We're only telling you what to expect with certain settings so that you don't have unrealistic expectations.

Thansk for the reply.
Are you playing bf1? If you do, you know you would not like 42% res scale.. i'm using a 1080p monitor 144hz. I know some guys rendering at 100% and gets higher fps and more stable and they have the founders ed. The weird thing is that when I got the card, installed it and played for the first time, it was all good at 100% res scale and ultra settings. I did not get under 110 fps at the lowest! 2 days later it dropped down to 70 at the lowest and that makes the game laggy in my opinion, from 150-120 to 70. The other guys I know have 90 at the lowest, and we have the same setup but Ive got a "better" graphics card and they have 1440p monitors.. The benchmarking I did showed me that the card is working so I don't know..I can also tell you that when I start my pc it takes 2-3 tries, when it finally gets on it says "overclocking failed" without even overclocking anything, I did in the past, but everything is stock now and has been stock for a long time..

Firstly I said for some people 100% res scaling might be at 42% and this is because I read it on another forum while sorting my issue out although I think this is depending on a monitor you use... not sure... but that what they said so I thought its worth to mention if it will help anyone else.

Secondly - your issue - if you get good FPS in first round etc which is average 25min? Maybe the temps get too high on your GPU/CPU? its worth checking. Also you have to consider you will get different FPS depending on the map youre playing so if one round you played one map and in second and third a different one you might see a different result.

What I suggest is monitor your usage and temps for both CPU and GPU and Memory and see if there are any drastic changes when your FPS drops in next rounds...

Like I said. After I installed the 1080 TI card I was playing the same day for a long time without any problem, never under 110 fps with all ultra 100% res scaling. But now it drops to 70's and can also stay on 80's for s long time, and its laggy, very laggy...also feeling some lag spikes Temps for gpu is 55-60 in-game. Cpu have watercooling and I have not checked monitor but that has never been a prob for me. Don't know how to check memory, my bios is old, can that have something to say? How can I check all this stuff? Do you have any good softwares?
Thanks.

 

[Pablix360]

Setting the resolution scale to 42% causes the game engine to render the game at whatever your current resolution is. Yes, you will have lower quality than rendering at a higher resolution then down sampling it to fit your currently selected resolution. If you have a 4k screen, there's little reason to be rendering more than you're displaying. That's going to drastically reduce performance, and there's a good chance you won't be able to pick out a quality difference while playing. If you have a 1080 screen, you'll probably see the quality difference if you're looking for it, but you're also going to see the noticeable frame rate decrease as well. This at least gives each player the ability to set things where they want, rather than forcing the developer's choice on everyone, and means the game can easily be scaled to maintain playable performance on consoles.

If your 970 gave you better performance, then use that instead.

From what Tom's has shown the game to run at, when rendering at 2k and 4k, your 150 - 160 fps doesn't sound realistic, if you're running a 100% resolution scale in the game, unless your actual screen size is somewhere below 1080.

If the game itself is having issues, and you really do get 150 - 160 fps for the first round, and subsequent rounds don't, it sounds to me like exiting from and reopening the game is the solution. Could be a resource leak somewhere. If it's in the game, I would suspect a restart of your game will clear things back up.

Nobody is telling you to turn the settings down. Set them wherever you want. We're only telling you what to expect with certain settings so that you don't have unrealistic expectations.

Thansk for the reply.
Are you playing bf1? If you do, you know you would not like 42% res scale.. i'm using a 1080p monitor 144hz. I know some guys rendering at 100% and gets higher fps and more stable and they have the founders ed. The weird thing is that when I got the card, installed it and played for the first time, it was all good at 100% res scale and ultra settings. I did not get under 110 fps at the lowest! 2 days later it dropped down to 70 at the lowest and that makes the game laggy in my opinion, from 150-120 to 70. The other guys I know have 90 at the lowest, and we have the same setup but Ive got a "better" graphics card and they have 1440p monitors.. The benchmarking I did showed me that the card is working so I don't know..I can also tell you that when I start my pc it takes 2-3 tries, when it finally gets on it says "overclocking failed" without even overclocking anything, I did in the past, but everything is stock now and has been stock for a long time..

Firstly I said for some people 100% res scaling might be at 42% and this is because I read it on another forum while sorting my issue out although I think this is depending on a monitor you use... not sure... but that what they said so I thought its worth to mention if it will help anyone else.

Secondly - your issue - if you get good FPS in first round etc which is average 25min? Maybe the temps get too high on your GPU/CPU? its worth checking. Also you have to consider you will get different FPS depending on the map youre playing so if one round you played one map and in second and third a different one you might see a different result.

What I suggest is monitor your usage and temps for both CPU and GPU and Memory and see if there are any drastic changes when your FPS drops in next rounds...

Like I said. After I installed the 1080 TI card I was playing the same day for a long time without any problem, never under 110 fps with all ultra 100% res scaling. But now it drops to 70's and can also stay on 80's for s long time, and its laggy, very laggy...also feeling some lag spikes Temps for gpu is 55-60 in-game. Cpu have watercooling and I have not checked monitor but that has never been a prob for me. Don't know how to check memory, my bios is old, can that have something to say? How can I check all this stuff? Do you have any good softwares?
Thanks.

Use MSI Afterburner - there are many setup guides on youtube if you don't work it out yourself how to set it up to show all usages and temps of your hardware in game.

 

[GPMethod]

Setting the resolution scale to 42% causes the game engine to render the game at whatever your current resolution is. Yes, you will have lower quality than rendering at a higher resolution then down sampling it to fit your currently selected resolution. If you have a 4k screen, there's little reason to be rendering more than you're displaying. That's going to drastically reduce performance, and there's a good chance you won't be able to pick out a quality difference while playing. If you have a 1080 screen, you'll probably see the quality difference if you're looking for it, but you're also going to see the noticeable frame rate decrease as well. This at least gives each player the ability to set things where they want, rather than forcing the developer's choice on everyone, and means the game can easily be scaled to maintain playable performance on consoles.

If your 970 gave you better performance, then use that instead.

From what Tom's has shown the game to run at, when rendering at 2k and 4k, your 150 - 160 fps doesn't sound realistic, if you're running a 100% resolution scale in the game, unless your actual screen size is somewhere below 1080.

If the game itself is having issues, and you really do get 150 - 160 fps for the first round, and subsequent rounds don't, it sounds to me like exiting from and reopening the game is the solution. Could be a resource leak somewhere. If it's in the game, I would suspect a restart of your game will clear things back up.

Nobody is telling you to turn the settings down. Set them wherever you want. We're only telling you what to expect with certain settings so that you don't have unrealistic expectations.

Thansk for the reply.
Are you playing bf1? If you do, you know you would not like 42% res scale.. i'm using a 1080p monitor 144hz. I know some guys rendering at 100% and gets higher fps and more stable and they have the founders ed. The weird thing is that when I got the card, installed it and played for the first time, it was all good at 100% res scale and ultra settings. I did not get under 110 fps at the lowest! 2 days later it dropped down to 70 at the lowest and that makes the game laggy in my opinion, from 150-120 to 70. The other guys I know have 90 at the lowest, and we have the same setup but Ive got a "better" graphics card and they have 1440p monitors.. The benchmarking I did showed me that the card is working so I don't know..I can also tell you that when I start my pc it takes 2-3 tries, when it finally gets on it says "overclocking failed" without even overclocking anything, I did in the past, but everything is stock now and has been stock for a long time..

Firstly I said for some people 100% res scaling might be at 42% and this is because I read it on another forum while sorting my issue out although I think this is depending on a monitor you use... not sure... but that what they said so I thought its worth to mention if it will help anyone else.

Secondly - your issue - if you get good FPS in first round etc which is average 25min? Maybe the temps get too high on your GPU/CPU? its worth checking. Also you have to consider you will get different FPS depending on the map youre playing so if one round you played one map and in second and third a different one you might see a different result.

What I suggest is monitor your usage and temps for both CPU and GPU and Memory and see if there are any drastic changes when your FPS drops in next rounds...

Like I said. After I installed the 1080 TI card I was playing the same day for a long time without any problem, never under 110 fps with all ultra 100% res scaling. But now it drops to 70's and can also stay on 80's for s long time, and its laggy, very laggy...also feeling some lag spikes Temps for gpu is 55-60 in-game. Cpu have watercooling and I have not checked monitor but that has never been a prob for me. Don't know how to check memory, my bios is old, can that have something to say? How can I check all this stuff? Do you have any good softwares?
Thanks.

Use MSI Afterburner - there are many setup guides on youtube if you don't work it out yourself how to set it up to show all usages and temps of your hardware in game.

Here is the results, I don't know what to look for here, if you can see anything that's not normal please let me know. I had BF1 running while I took screenshots. I was in-game and played for a little bit then I took the screenshots.

Bus Usage Test: https://gyazo.com/76db5ca2d0eb7a8528f4a6651cedc244
Core Test: https://gyazo.com/fe1e9b756c288eae0f9c405ab5b91d87
CPU Usage Test: https://gyazo.com/62f366dcb5cc553911235dec7c215802
CPU1-8 Temp Test: https://gyazo.com/8fdc4a2f4b25a6a956df8f545c61410e
FB Usage Test: https://gyazo.com/48108bc4e94bdead422674b500edac9a
GPU Usage Test: https://gyazo.com/fd87d71b463b3c167193050be8a6955f
GPU Temp Test: https://gyazo.com/c99a66ce914d86c8c88b3713a381b796
Memory Clock Test: https://gyazo.com/324edd1b970db7227afbaa90155b8c76
Memory Usage Test: https://gyazo.com/e6e327b6ede85bbbb03dc38548a3737f
Pagefile Usage Test: https://gyazo.com/ef58fb52104e141bce64532e6e80e752

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Your physical memory is sitting at 91% in quite a few of those screen shots. What's using up all of your memory?

 

[GPMethod]

Your physical memory is sitting at 91% in quite a few of those screen shots. What's using up all of your memory?

I have task manager open so thats pretty much everything. You can see all the programs I have open, only bf1.. I can also see that pagefile is full, what can cause this?

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Your page file shouldn't be full.
Your RAM shouldn't be full either.
You have your task manager scrolled so we can't see the processes using the highest amount of RAM.

It appears that BF1 had a memory leak in Beta that made it into the release version. Was that ever corrected?

 

[GPMethod]

Your page file shouldn't be full.
Your RAM shouldn't be full either.
You have your task manager scrolled so we can't see the processes using the highest amount of RAM.

It appears that BF1 had a memory leak in Beta that made it into the release version. Was that ever corrected?

Here is it. https://gyazo.com/7959f298005759513afea361de605106

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Well, there is part of it, followed by an elipsis... Still can't see where all the memory and PF usage is coming from.

 

[GPMethod]

Well, there is part of it, followed by an elipsis... Still can't see where all the memory and PF usage is coming from.

What do you mean? Open the link and zoom in, take a print screen and zoom in from there. Update: I formatet my comp and its still bad so it has to be something with the components.... the first round I had now was minimum 115 fps all the way up to 160. The 2nd round now the lowest is 75 and starting to get very laggy. I only have the game on my computer, nothing else so it's bad..

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

We still can't see the total memory being used by your BF1 game as you have everything scrunched into tall, skinny columns.

Have you tried exiting BF1 after playing a round at normal FPS and starting your second round only after restarting the game, but not restarting the computer, to see if the game is the problem?

 

[bignastyid]

Please continue this your own thread.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3386669/asus-gtx-1080-battlefield-100-fps.html

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