[SOLVED] 1440p - 70 hz IPS vs 144hz VA

[Kizza176]

Hi Guys,

I'm not well versed in the monitor world and I'm struggling to pick between the below two monitors.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/f4d7a73
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/6dfb143f

They're both 1440p 27" displays, however both have their differences - Iiyama has 70hz IPS with Freesync vs Samsung which is 144hz VA. Both at the same price point of £250.
I will game often on games such as Apex, Battlefield, Call of Duty and Escape from Tarkov. However I'll also be using it to watch movies and TV series on Netflix etc. so image quality is still important to me.

So the question is, which one will provide the best all-round experience for both gaming, browsing internet, youtube and movies? (I do game a lot so bear that in mind).

My rig is fairly decent;
RX5700
Ryzen R5 3600
16GB RAM

So I hope I'll be maxing out most games 100fps+

Thanks!

 

[chickenballs]

get the liyama simply because it supports freesync while the Samsung dont

 

[doolittle]

The liyama has 15MS input lag... pretty bad for IPS panel.

The samsung has 5MS lag, on par with good IPS panels and combined with the 144hz, gaming will be much more enjoyable in FPS and action games. I would go Samsung in this case... If you have not seen a curved VA panel, I think you will be impressed. Head down to your local pc shop and compare similar screens.

 

[digitalgriffin]

Hi Guys,

I'm not well versed in the monitor world and I'm struggling to pick between the below two monitors.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/f4d7a73
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/6dfb143f

They're both 1440p 27" displays, however both have their differences - Iiyama has 70hz IPS with Freesync vs Samsung which is 144hz VA. Both at the same price point of £250.
I will game often on games such as Apex, Battlefield, Call of Duty and Escape from Tarkov. However I'll also be using it to watch movies and TV series on Netflix etc. so image quality is still important to me.

So the question is, which one will provide the best all-round experience for both gaming, browsing internet, youtube and movies? (I do game a lot so bear that in mind).

My rig is fairly decent;
RX5700
Ryzen R5 3600
16GB RAM

So I hope I'll be maxing out most games 100fps+

Thanks!

The Liyama list FreeSync which will lead to a smoother gameplay experience. However it's operating window is quite small. So it's actual value is questionable. Thhe Liyama also will have better color rendition as it has a true 8 bit panel and better off angle viewing due to IPS.

Samsung has a much higher refresh rate, but no free-sync/adaptive sync/variable refresh rate. This will lead to a less smooth motion, but higher refresh rates, which hard core gamers desire. The colors however are not nearly as good with a 6 bit panel.

For gaming panels I prefer the response rates of VA over IPS. It's a balanced trade off between speed, and color reproduction. But this is a personal preference. But I would choose a true 8 bit VA, PVA, or SPVA panel

A lot of people prefer TN displays for gaming because of their fast response time and relative cheapness. But they have poor off axis rendering and the native contrast is poor, leading to grey looking blacks.

If I were you I would keep shopping.

 

[Kizza176]

The Liyama list FreeSync which will lead to a smoother gameplay experience. However it's operating window is quite small. So it's actual value is questionable. Thhe Liyama also will have better color rendition as it has a true 8 bit panel and better off angle viewing due to IPS.

Samsung has a much higher refresh rate, but no free-sync/adaptive sync/variable refresh rate. This will lead to a less smooth motion, but higher refresh rates, which hard core gamers desire. The colors however are not nearly as good with a 6 bit panel.

For gaming panels I prefer the response rates of VA over IPS. It's a balanced trade off between speed, and color reproduction. But this is a personal preference. But I would choose a true 8 bit VA, PVA, or SPVA panel

A lot of people prefer TN displays for gaming because of their fast response time and relative cheapness. But they have poor off axis rendering and the native contrast is poor, leading to grey looking blacks.

If I were you I would keep shopping.

Hey,

Thanks for the reply

Ok so given what you say, I've found the monitor below which has 144hz, VA, FreeSync, and 8 bit colour. would you recommend? As it ticks all the boxes.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-ED273...=144hz+1440p&qid=1567931295&s=gateway&sr=8-13

Thanks!

 

[Kizza176]

Hey,

Thanks for the reply

Ok so given what you say, I've found the monitor below which has 144hz, VA, FreeSync, and 8 bit colour. would you recommend? As it ticks all the boxes.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-ED273...=144hz+1440p&qid=1567931295&s=gateway&sr=8-13

Thanks!

Ok, I just noticed that Acer monitor doesn't have 8 bit colour. I found the below but it's 31.5" which I think might be too big for gaming

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ViewSonic-...2596482031&rnid=319915031&s=computers&sr=1-17

 

[digitalgriffin]

Ok, I just noticed that Acer monitor doesn't have 8 bit colour. I found the below but it's 31.5" which I think might be too big for gaming

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ViewSonic-VX3258-2KC-MHD-FreeSync-DisplayPort-Speakers/dp/B07B8DXNDZ/ref=sr_1_17?keywords=144hz+1440p&qid=1567934592&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin:2596482031&rnid=319915031&s=computers&sr=1-17

https://www.viewsonic.com/us/monitors/shop/home-monitors/vx3258-2kc-mhd.html#specs

Per specs....
COLOR SPACE SUPPORT
8 Bit with A-FRC

It's the FRC that means it's dithering a 6 bit panel. What this means is it takes 4 screen refreshes to simulate a color. 6 bit = 64 shade levels. This gets remapped to 256 levels (8 bit) So lets say I wanted to simulate a value of 65 brightness on a 256 scale (8 bit), This is approximately a value of 16.25 on a 6 bit level. So you'll get 16/64 brightness on 3 frames and 17/64 on one frame.

So you're getting an approximation. It might also explain why the color space % reproduction is so poor. Having a lower bit depth makes the panel easier & cheaper to manufacture as it gives you 4x's the voltage target window. So your screen voltage DACs don't have to be as accurate. The individual LCD sub elements do work on a variable voltage which makes it analog. This is why there is a "Pixel response time" And it varies depending on where we are coming from and where we are going to voltage wise. It's why we have nasty side effects like overshoot and image inversion/blur. Unfortunately a 6 bit panel is crap in terms of color space reproduction.

10Bit with A-FRC is okay because 99.9% likely it's True 8 bit with diterhing. (I have never seen a 6 bit panel labeled as 10 bit with FRC at least)

 

[digitalgriffin]

This monitor might check all the boxes. It seems reasonably priced as well

AOC AG273QCX - PC Monitors

 

[daza72]

Hi Guys,

I'm not well versed in the monitor world and I'm struggling to pick between the below two monitors.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/f4d7a73
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/6dfb143f

They're both 1440p 27" displays, however both have their differences - Iiyama has 70hz IPS with Freesync vs Samsung which is 144hz VA. Both at the same price point of £250.
I will game often on games such as Apex, Battlefield, Call of Duty and Escape from Tarkov. However I'll also be using it to watch movies and TV series on Netflix etc. so image quality is still important to me.

So the question is, which one will provide the best all-round experience for both gaming, browsing internet, youtube and movies? (I do game a lot so bear that in mind).

My rig is fairly decent;
RX5700
Ryzen R5 3600
16GB RAM

So I hope I'll be maxing out most games 100fps+

Thanks!

i am the same i watch allot stuff on you tube and films, i got 1 of the best 1440p ips monitors acer predator more over the asus as it had an updated screen 2018, va there good and the tops for gaming but when you switch from va to ips its like wizard of oz when it goes from black and white to colour lol its amazing in games where you can get 165hz obviously not all games but its just amazing

 

[Kizza176]

Thanks for the input guys! Although 8bit/10bit is a nice to have, it's not a necessity in terms of gaming and watching videos etc. The over £100 price hike for having 8 bit is a bit too unreasonable for me and I have a pretty firm budget of £250. So it's either 144hz VA panel with 6 bit or 60hz IPS and 8 bit.