1st time gaming pc build 800€

[Namarax]

Hello
Since my brother gave me a gaming laptop last year i've been more and more intrested in pc for gaming with the steam sales and mods etc. Unfortunately it is a laptop and it has a hard time with the latest games (last time i tried i could run bf3 at low with about 40-50 fps with some crashes on the laggy maps)
Since the next-gen consoles doesn't intrest me that much, decided to sell my old consoles to build a gaming pc

Approximate Purchase Date: This month

Budget Range: 800€ (about 1100$)

System Usage: mostly gaming, but also all the other computer stuff like websurfing etc

Parts Not Required: mouse, keyboard, monitor, software

Country: France

Parts Preferences: intel CPU and nvidia GPU

Overclocking: Since i'm rather new to pc, i don't think i'll overclock

SLI or Crossfire: Not for the moment

Monitor Resolution: 1080p

Additional Comments: A friend of mine built a pc on pcpartpicker and showed it to me saying it could run all the current games and most 2014 future games at 1080p 60fps on high easily
Here's the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vowH
Could you guys check if there's some compatibility issues and if the parts are good ect? because i was thinking of buying the same

Thanks

 

[AxlFone]

Hi. 1100 $ is just about 800€now. Last couple days dollar is going up and € down.

So here is 800€ build. No case but buy case from local store and look good case like Fractal R4 is Bitfenix Ghost or something like that.It goes bit over the budget but makes your build better, cooler and more silent
https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/eb85a522007f528c5c58a36b1f92ea41bdd14c483962a7e5427

If you do not want to OC then make it like this.
https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/46c47b220278f04bb2f36316eead023f0bd2860169205d8a96f

You can not order here so look same parts here.
http://www.hardwareversand.de/Socket+1150+%28XEON%29/78093/Intel+Xeon+E3-1230v3+Bx%2C+LGA1150%2C+ohne+K%C3%BChler.article

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

I don't know what parts are available in your country, but this is what I'd get on your budget :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($58.86 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($75.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1103.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-04 05:33 EST-0500)

Now, this is just my recommendation. You should get a case that you like; the cheapest 8gb, dual slot memory you can find; a HDD (try and get the SSD I mentioned or the 128gb model, its really good) with the amount of space you want;

everything else should be good for you (assuming you wont be overclocking)

BTW, do you really need a networking card?

 

[_Vass]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vpOz

 

[Namarax]

AxlFone: I'd rather a nvidia GPU

Rafeeq: I know that the ssd is alot faster than the hdd, but is it really that necessary? because it is quite expensive for the space it has. And yes network card is needed until i move, because my father uses the wired connection on his 10 year old computer, and i'd like a computer in my room that i can use all the time (and my room is quite far from the router). Also i see that you haven't included a cpu cooler. Isn't it necessary?

Vaas: same as rafeeq about the ssd. also the PSU doesn't say that it's haswell compatible (i don't know if it's a problem or not though)

 

[AxlFone]

AxlFone: I'd rather a nvidia GPU

Then look GTX 760 / 770. Asus , MSI , Gigabyte ,Zotac are good.

 

[_Vass]

AxlFone: I'd rather a nvidia GPU

Rafeeq: I know that the ssd is alot faster than the hdd, but is it really that necessary? because it is quite expensive for the space it has. And yes network card is needed until i move, because my father uses the wired connection on his 10 year old computer, and i'd like a computer in my room that i can use all the time (and my room is quite far from the router). Also i see that you haven't included a cpu cooler. Isn't it necessary?

Vaas: same as rafeeq about the ssd. also the PSU doesn't say that it's haswell compatible (i don't know if it's a problem or not though)

the ssd is like 5 times faster. once you're used to it you don't want to go back. the hdd is a big bottleneck in everyday work (not really gaming) and you'll certainly notice. other than that, no, it's not necessary. the PSU could be a problem, that is why i hate haswell they want you to go with specific RAM psu mobo, gpu name it all. haswell has like a 2% performance increase over ivy bridge yet is uses 10+% power. i'd go for an ivy, but they are slightly more expensive and since you're not overclocking it all comes down to what you want (ivy bridge overclocks better in general).

 

[Rafeed Iqbal]

AxlFone: I'd rather a nvidia GPU

Rafeeq: I know that the ssd is alot faster than the hdd, but is it really that necessary? because it is quite expensive for the space it has. And yes network card is needed until i move, because my father uses the wired connection on his 10 year old computer, and i'd like a computer in my room that i can use all the time (and my room is quite far from the router). Also i see that you haven't included a cpu cooler. Isn't it necessary?

Vaas: same as rafeeq about the ssd. also the PSU doesn't say that it's haswell compatible (i don't know if it's a problem or not though)

the ssd is like 5 times faster. once you're used to it you don't want to go back. the hdd is a big bottleneck in everyday work (not really gaming) and you'll certainly notice. other than that, no, it's not necessary. the PSU could be a problem, that is why i hate haswell they want you to go with specific RAM psu mobo, gpu name it all. haswell has like a 2% performance increase over ivy bridge yet is uses 10+% power. i'd go for an ivy, but they are slightly more expensive and since you're not overclocking it all comes down to what you want (ivy bridge overclocks better in general).

yeah this, you wont need a cpu cooler unless you go the overclocking route.

 

[Antares88]

Theres my build for you. It has everything id say, SSD, HDD (choose higher capacity ofc if you desire / need), neat low noise case, decent motherboard for future SLI option, exc.
Stock cooler that comes with this CPU does the job ok and with this model of cpu and motherboard you won't be able to overclock though but you stated that already in the requirements.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($339.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 330R ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.03 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1102.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-04 07:38 EST-0500)

 

[Namarax]

So if i want to go for ivy bridge should i go for something like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($147.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1093.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-04 08:02 EST-0500)

 

[_Vass]

So if i want to go for ivy bridge should i go for something like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($147.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1093.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-04 08:02 EST-0500)

yes. the motherboard is kinda overkill for the processor, get something like a 3570k or non k or 3550. you could switch to a h77 because you won't be able to overclock the non k processor anyway, then again the z77 has more features like CF and sli. get a cm hyper evo instead of the tx3.

 

[Namarax]

Okay, thanks for your answers, guess i better go buy my rig then 😀

 

[Antares88]

Get the Asrock Z77 Extreme4 ($120), has a good OC potential, if you're going with 1155 platform.

 

[AxlFone]

3350PP is worst cpu you can get for LGA 1155 build. if you do not OC buy Xeon 1230V2
It is lot better choice.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+V2+%40+3.30GHz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcB1BIyJ5j8

Or 3570k and OC it.

Still I dot not understand why you want to build with old LGA 1155. New 1150 mobos are much netter.
And cheaper! :lol:

 

[_Vass]

3350PP is worst cpu you can get for LGA 1155 build. if you do not OC buy Xeon 1230V2
It is lot better choice.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+V2+%40+3.30GHz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcB1BIyJ5j8

Or 3570k and OC it.

Still I dot not understand why you want to build with old LGA 1155. New 1150 mobos are much netter.
And cheaper! :lol:

i agree on the xeon. but really 1150? haswell cpu's have compatibilty issues with psu's, the mobo's aren't cheaper at all, and on top of that they run hotter and thus have less headroom for overclocks. z77 are just as good as z87 in fact a lot of z87 mobo's have vrm problems. z77 has far less problems. read the article about haswell on toms (something like: haswell update; enthousiast yawn).

 

[AxlFone]

3350PP is worst cpu you can get for LGA 1155 build. if you do not OC buy Xeon 1230V2
It is lot better choice.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+V2+%40+3.30GHz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcB1BIyJ5j8

Or 3570k and OC it.

Still I dot not understand why you want to build with old LGA 1155. New 1150 mobos are much netter.
And cheaper! :lol:

i agree on the xeon. but really 1150? haswell cpu's have compatibilty issues with psu's, the mobo's aren't cheaper at all, and on top of that they run hotter and thus have less headroom for overclocks. z77 are just as good as z87 in fact a lot of z87 mobo's have vrm problems. z77 has far less problems. read the article about haswell on toms (something like: haswell update; enthousiast yawn).

Maybe.. Maybe not.

Price is in this case cheaper.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77xd3h
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xd3h

Warm issues? Yes. But still you can OC 4770k to 4.8GHz with air. Not bad. So is it really issue? No. IMO anyway. 1150 is new so there may be bit issues. But in couple monts is coming new chipset so..

LGA 1150 do have more sta ports. Better protection usb + lan connectors. Better sound cards on board..
And if there is issue it do have warranty. So what is good and what is not. It really is not that simple thing.

 

[_Vass]

3350PP is worst cpu you can get for LGA 1155 build. if you do not OC buy Xeon 1230V2
It is lot better choice.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+V2+%40+3.30GHz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcB1BIyJ5j8

Or 3570k and OC it.

Still I dot not understand why you want to build with old LGA 1155. New 1150 mobos are much netter.
And cheaper! :lol:

i agree on the xeon. but really 1150? haswell cpu's have compatibilty issues with psu's, the mobo's aren't cheaper at all, and on top of that they run hotter and thus have less headroom for overclocks. z77 are just as good as z87 in fact a lot of z87 mobo's have vrm problems. z77 has far less problems. read the article about haswell on toms (something like: haswell update; enthousiast yawn).

Maybe.. Maybe not.

Price is in this case cheaper.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77xd3h
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xd3h

Warm issues? Yes. But still you can OC 4770k to 4.8GHz with air. Not bad. So is it really issue? No. IMO anyway. 1150 is new so there may be bit issues. But in couple monts is coming new chipset so..

LGA 1150 do have more sta ports. Better protection usb + lan connectors. Better sound cards on board..
And if there is issue it do have warranty. So what is good and what is not. It really is not that simple thing.

more sata ports are not required by most gamers. better protection usb? as in protected against corupting? could you give me a link because i couldn't find a single supporting article about that. Lan hasn't changed at all... still 1gbps ports only the extreme motherboards have changed that and those are out of the question anyway. i compared the sabertooth z87 to the z77 and there was not single thing i could find that tips the scales in favor of the z87 chipset.

edit: btw the ones you linked actually show that in that case z77 got more sata port than z87 (4x 3gbps and 4x 6gbps and 1 msata for the z77 total of 9 - 6x 6gbps for the z87 total of 6) 😛