2nd time builder with some questions on upgrade route

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So I currently have a PC I built close to 10 years ago,
-AMD 1090t BE (not overclocked, had too many issues)
-Asus M4A89GTD
-8gb Corsair dominator gt ddr3 (sorry cant really describe it better than that)
-WD blue 500gb SSD (recent install, main/boot drive)
-WD 1tb hdd (caviar I think?)
-Radeon HD 6950
-crap "750w" ultra PSU
In a Cooler master HAF 932 case...


I'm looking to rebuild it, and wonder if it is even feasible (or worthwhile) to upgrade it in stages.

Stage 1: was looking at putting a nice modular PSU to replace the POS that's in there now, as well as change the GPU for an RX580 8gb. Would this make a big difference being that the other stuff (CPU & RAM) is so old now? or would it only be worth it to go for stage 1+2 together?

Stage 2: Ryzen 2600 with a new motherboard and 16gb of good ddr4 ram

Stage 3: Some kind of water cooling and overclocking.

So all in all I'm planning on keeping the SSD and HDD, and the case.


Also when I go to stage 2, I'm thinking it will just kinda be plug the crap in, set the bios to boot from the SSD, and it will just load up my computer. Am I wrong? will I need a new windows copy?

Sorry, I've never really upgraded before, the only thing I ever built was this, and it was from scratch.

Thanks,
Ben
 
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gfoke88

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how does this look?
I don't think having anything that runs over 60 fps will provide me any benefit right? since I only have a 60hz monitor and have no intention of upgrading them until they burn up...

anything I should change out to make it better for $750 total?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($238.00 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: *Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: Samsung - SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Asus - VP247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Asus - VP247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $640.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-23 12:40 EDT-0400
 
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gfoke88

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It looks like the 1060 has the edge on most games, although I really don't have any modern games (yet). I mostly want this build for fallout 76, possibly fallout 4, sometimes minecraft (always wanted to try the ultra HD texture packs) and I have a history of playing battlefield games on PC.

I want this build to hold 60fps easy on stuff for a couple years, or basically just outperform my Xbox one X.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: *Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Optical Drive: Samsung - SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Asus - VP247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Asus - VP247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $762.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-23 23:56 EDT-0400

A 1060 will do exactly what you want right now. The thing is, it is already 2 years old. Going forward I would recommend either A. Getting the 1070 or B. Waiting for the new 2060 midlevel cards to be released.
 
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gfoke88

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Well I think I'm going the 1070 route, but I'm having a hard time finding all the pieces in stock. I'm changing the motherboard to a MSI tomahawk b450 to get the same size (ATX) as the current motherboard (for simplicity sake, and since the micro ATX I had picked isn't in stock anywhere.)

I'm also having a hard time finding ram. PC part picker seems to be pretty bad at lining up their "in stock" with that of newegg and amazon. B&H also has a thing on their site saying that they're currently closed? IDK whats up with that.

Provided I can get the parts, this really shouldn't be too complicated right? Since windows and all my crap is already on my drives, I should just be able to slap the stuff in, set up the bios to the correct drives and it should load my stuff, correct? At least provided everything works right.
 
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gfoke88

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Well, I just ordered $870 worth of stuff... this should be fun.

I went with an EVGA supernova 550w PSU instead of the corsair, since it was on uber sale at newegg. seems to be a comparable (if not better) unit. It's also full modular, which is something I wanted as well.

maybe by next weekend I'll have my junk. newegg has snail shipping from what I remember.

 
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gfoke88

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Posting from the new hardware! :bounce:


newegg only took 1.5 days to get it here, color me impressed.

Did a fresh install of windows, per the recommendation of the folks here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3793834/hd6950-gtx1070.html

Was a fiasco, but at least I'm without any bloat on my PC now.

I'm still only running one monitor ATM (gonna button up wiring and try to get my media drive hooked back up and working first.. really hoping I can at least keep my music from this wipe.)

also my ram is only running at 1064mhz on cpu-z. gotta figure out how to get it up to the 3200. Bios updates are something I've never done.
 
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