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"XFF" <xff@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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| "Proconsul" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
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| > I will repeat that I find that they are expanding all over the country
and
| > remain the single carrier with the best coverage nationwide. There are
| > certainly some areas where other carriers are also expanding and
competing,
| > but no one can begin to match the coverage Verizon has almost
everywhere.
| > Please advise if you can provide some specifics - we are all interested
| > enough to read and post in this venue and most of us welcome the
discussion.
|
| One example is Nevada. VZW's coverage on cellular B pales compared to
| WWCA's coverage on cellular A. In ND and SD, WWCA also beats VZW in
| terms of coverage.
Point taken - you might take note of the fact that with t he exception of
one or two metro areas, those places are relatively
uninhabited....especially ND and SD. ND & SD are especially scenic, but the
Interstates are covered. Take Las Vegas out of Nevada, where Verizon is
"king", and it's uninhabited in the main as well. Having driven through
Nevada many, manyu times, I can report that coverage along the I-15 and I-70
is just fine. The rattlesnakes and geckos in the rest of the state don't use
cell phones.....
| > I will repeat the point once again that seems to escape many of the
| > naysayers - it makes little economic sense to "expand" in areas where
there
| > are no people. The uninhabited wilderness in Oregon is a good example -
| > more treehuggers have to buy the service if they expect more towers to
to
| > up. Similarly, the empty desert in Arizona where no one lives has spotty
| > service - nobody there to buy and pay for the service. Even in those
| > sparsely populated areas, Verizon service DOES exist along the major
interst
| > ate highways. Somebody has to pay for the service - Economics 101....!
|
| That's why VZW has endless holes created by Commnet filling in the
| coverage gaps that VZW and its predecessors left uncovered. See the
| Swiss cheese collection on the cellular B-side in the American west:
|
http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/Natl_Cell_B.html
But the holes ARE covered - I drive throughout the West and am virtually
always, with rare exceptions, on the Extended Network. You can't ignore the
Extended Network since it IS coverage and it IS provided.....
| WWCA on the other hand has extremely few coverage holes subsequently
| claimed by Commnet or others, indicating that their base coverage was
| better to begin with:
|
http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/Natl_Cell_A.html
Reviewing your maps indicates that Verizon's B-side coverage overlaps WWCA's
A-side almost everywhere - I'm sure those few exceptions you cite are valid,
but so what?
| > I seriously doubt that you can back up that assertion with facts. In
point
| > of fact, Verizon is buying up carriers all over the country and
expanding
| > their network at a great rate. I'd like to know who else is "growing
| > faster" - and, again, those of us who participate in this venue are
| > interested in that discussion.....
|
| In calendar year 2003, T-Mobile added 3.212 M customers on top of the
| 9.916 M they had at the end of 2002. That's an increase of 32.4%.
Takes a lot fewer "gains" to generate a higher percentage. Even with gains,
T-Mobil has less than one third of Verizon's customer base. Phony numbers...
| In the same time period, NEXTEL added 2.270 M customers on top of the
| 10.612 M they had at the end of 2002. That's an increase of 21.4%.
And they too have less than one third of Verizon's customer base - for the
same reason....lack of coverage except in localized areas....
| VZW added 5.031 M customers on top of the 32.491 M they had at the end
| of 2002. That's an increase of 15.5%.
Most came from other carriers that provide less coverage and poorer
service - Verizon's "lead" is expanding for the obvious reasons...
| Therefore, other carriers do grow faster than VZW.
I don't agree - those "percentages" are fallacious....for obvious
reasons......
| Don't get me wrong, I like VZW and I'm pretty happy with the service
| they provide, but let's not twist the facts in order to make a
| non-existing point.
I'm not the one twisting facts - and the issue remains
undisputed.....Verizon is the largest carrier that provides the best
service....that's why they have the largest customer base that is
expanding.....!
PC