3GHz XEON in HP x4000 Workstation?

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I'm thinking of upgrading my HP x4000 Workstation. It has two 2GHz XEONs,
and I planned going to 2x 2.8GHz XEON (400MHz FSB). Then I saw that there
are also 3GHz XEONs with 400MHz FSB. Since HP officially sold the x4000 only
with up to 2.8GHz (after that it has been replaced by its successor xw6000),
I wonder if the 3GHz XEONs will work in the x4000. Anyone out there who
tried that?

Benjamin
 
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:44:26 +0100, "Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de>
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>I'm thinking of upgrading my HP x4000 Workstation. It has two 2GHz XEONs,
>and I planned going to 2x 2.8GHz XEON (400MHz FSB). Then I saw that there
>are also 3GHz XEONs with 400MHz FSB. Since HP officially sold the x4000 only
>with up to 2.8GHz (after that it has been replaced by its successor xw6000),
>I wonder if the 3GHz XEONs will work in the x4000. Anyone out there who
>tried that?
>
>Benjamin

The official word from HP is that they support up to 2.4Ghz

However, I think its using a Tyan S2603 (aka i860) motherboard which
can take up to 3.0Ghz with the latest BIOS. However I'm not 100% sure
of this. Has anyone here had luck using a Tyan BIOS with the HP X4000?
 
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:44:26 +0100, "Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de>
wrote:

>I'm thinking of upgrading my HP x4000 Workstation. It has two 2GHz XEONs,
>and I planned going to 2x 2.8GHz XEON (400MHz FSB). Then I saw that there
>are also 3GHz XEONs with 400MHz FSB. Since HP officially sold the x4000 only
>with up to 2.8GHz (after that it has been replaced by its successor xw6000),
>I wonder if the 3GHz XEONs will work in the x4000. Anyone out there who
>tried that?
>
>Benjamin

Bit of an update. From this post on HPs forums I would guess that you
in fact CAN use the Tyan BIOS in the X4000. Which is good news for me
since I have one of these systems on its way to my door thanks to an
eBay auction and I wanted to use a pair of 2.6Ghz CPUs.

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=716493758+1101267225724+28353475&threadId=26496

You can get the BIOS here.

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderi860.html

TYAN THUNDER i860 V1.07
New Features and Fixes :
Micro code update from SRV_C_20 version.
(for up to 3.0GHz 400MHz FSB CPU's).
 
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Josiah Fizer wrote:

> The official word from HP is that they support up to 2.4Ghz

I don't think thats correct. Partsurfer also lists 2.8GHz CPUs for the
x4000, so they should be supported. And there also have been models of the
x4000 with 2.8GHz...

> However, I think its using a Tyan S2603 (aka i860) motherboard which
> can take up to 3.0Ghz with the latest BIOS. However I'm not 100% sure
> of this. Has anyone here had luck using a Tyan BIOS with the HP X4000?

Well, my machine has over 1 year of on-site warranty left I don't want to
flash an unsupported Tyan BIOS in the system. But since HP seems to support
up to 2.8Ghz in the x4000 I wonder if the BIOS will also recognise the 3GHz
CPU correctly...

Benjamin
 
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Josiah Fizer wrote:

> Bit of an update. From this post on HPs forums I would guess that you
> in fact CAN use the Tyan BIOS in the X4000. Which is good news for me
> since I have one of these systems on its way to my door thanks to an
> eBay auction and I wanted to use a pair of 2.6Ghz CPUs.
>
> http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=716493758+1101267225724+28353475&threadId=26496

Well, in this thread there only is one posting that says "You can try using
the TYAN BIOS" which says nothing about if it works or not. Note that HP
(like many other manufacturers) often use modified OEM hardware, and using
the TYAN BIOS can render Your new x4000 as a pretty doorstop.

Besides that, HP supports up to 2.8GHz in the x4000 so for Your 2.6GHz CPUs
You don't need the TYAN BIOS anyway...

Benjamin
 
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:24:41 +0100, "Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de>
wrote:

>Josiah Fizer wrote:
>
>> Bit of an update. From this post on HPs forums I would guess that you
>> in fact CAN use the Tyan BIOS in the X4000. Which is good news for me
>> since I have one of these systems on its way to my door thanks to an
>> eBay auction and I wanted to use a pair of 2.6Ghz CPUs.
>>
>> http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=716493758+1101267225724+28353475&threadId=26496
>
>Well, in this thread there only is one posting that says "You can try using
>the TYAN BIOS" which says nothing about if it works or not. Note that HP
>(like many other manufacturers) often use modified OEM hardware, and using
>the TYAN BIOS can render Your new x4000 as a pretty doorstop.
>
>Besides that, HP supports up to 2.8GHz in the x4000 so for Your 2.6GHz CPUs
>You don't need the TYAN BIOS anyway...
>
>Benjamin

I have heard from a vendor that people have been able to run the 2.8
and 3.0 Ghz Xeons in the X4000 with the HP BIOS (which is newer then
the Tyan for what its worth). So what I plan on doing is trying the HP
BIOS first and only resort to the Tyan one if the HP fails to utilize
the CPUs.
 
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:24:41 +0100, "Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de>
wrote:

>Josiah Fizer wrote:
>
>> Bit of an update. From this post on HPs forums I would guess that you
>> in fact CAN use the Tyan BIOS in the X4000. Which is good news for me
>> since I have one of these systems on its way to my door thanks to an
>> eBay auction and I wanted to use a pair of 2.6Ghz CPUs.
>>
>> http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=716493758+1101267225724+28353475&threadId=26496
>
>Well, in this thread there only is one posting that says "You can try using
>the TYAN BIOS" which says nothing about if it works or not. Note that HP
>(like many other manufacturers) often use modified OEM hardware, and using
>the TYAN BIOS can render Your new x4000 as a pretty doorstop.
>
>Besides that, HP supports up to 2.8GHz in the x4000 so for Your 2.6GHz CPUs
>You don't need the TYAN BIOS anyway...
>
>Benjamin

If you dont mind me asking, where did you see that HP supports 2.8Ghz
CPUs?
 
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Josiah Fizer wrote:

> If you dont mind me asking, where did you see that HP supports 2.8Ghz
> CPUs?

It's on partsurfer (HPs online part ressource):

http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main?sel_flg=partlist&model=X4000&HP_model=A6068B&modname=Workstation+X4000+%28BTCO%29+%28A6068B%29&template=main&plist_sval=Processor&plist_styp=subcat&dealer_id=&callingsite=&strsrch=&keysel=Processor&catsel=%3F&pictype=I&picture=%3F&uniqpic=

The P/N for the x4000 2.8GHz processor is A9377A.

Besides that, I remember on the x4000 being offered by our HP distributors
when I bought mine.

Benjamin
 
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:48:13 +0100, "Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de>
wrote:

>Josiah Fizer wrote:
>
>> If you dont mind me asking, where did you see that HP supports 2.8Ghz
>> CPUs?
>
>It's on partsurfer (HPs online part ressource):
>
>http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main?sel_flg=partlist&model=X4000&HP_model=A6068B&modname=Workstation+X4000+%28BTCO%29+%28A6068B%29&template=main&plist_sval=Processor&plist_styp=subcat&dealer_id=&callingsite=&strsrch=&keysel=Processor&catsel=%3F&pictype=I&picture=%3F&uniqpic=
>
>The P/N for the x4000 2.8GHz processor is A9377A.
>
>Besides that, I remember on the x4000 being offered by our HP distributors
>when I bought mine.
>
>Benjamin

Interesting, I guess that means they must have added the newer
microcode support without listing it in the BIOS updates. Good news
indeed.