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I've not noticed any threads about the latest Omega drivers. They seem
stable enough but don't make much of a difference for me (no problems
before and no problems after, so I shouldn't grumble). The update
seems to be aimed at fixing problems with other people's cards
(mobility Radeons etc.)
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On 5/19/2004 5:14 AM Julian Richards brightened our day with:

>I've not noticed any threads about the latest Omega drivers. They seem
>stable enough but don't make much of a difference for me (no problems
>before and no problems after, so I shouldn't grumble). The update
>seems to be aimed at fixing problems with other people's cards
>(mobility Radeons etc.)
>--
>
>
>
Why the heck are they in CAB file format?

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On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:15:26 GMT, Inglo
<ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote:


>Why the heck are they in CAB file format?

Apparently to keep the size down. Some of the download mirrors can be
notoriously slow and many people are still on dialup.

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Inglo <ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote in message news:<yKLqc.69067$Mb.28840@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>...
> On 5/19/2004 5:14 AM Julian Richards brightened our day with:
>
> >I've not noticed any threads about the latest Omega drivers. They seem
> >stable enough but don't make much of a difference for me (no problems
> >before and no problems after, so I shouldn't grumble). The update
> >seems to be aimed at fixing problems with other people's cards
> >(mobility Radeons etc.)
> >--
> >
> >
> >
> Why the heck are they in CAB file format?

Will CAB is a compression format standardly inbuild in windows. And
the cab is 16-17Mb while the EXE once extracted is 19Mb ...so it does
work!

 

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On 20 May 2004 02:21:20 -0700, superxml@yahoo.com (Dark Avenger)
wrote:


>Will CAB is a compression format standardly inbuild in windows. And
>the cab is 16-17Mb while the EXE once extracted is 19Mb ...so it does
>work!

I just compressed the exe into zip and rar to see the difference.
zip=18.6mb
rar=16.8mb
cab=16.8mb

Considering that everyone has .cab file support built into windows
it's surprising that more people don't use .cab.

 

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Throw in the .ace 2.0 format

As for .cab, it is owned by microsoft. I think that's got to do with not
much distributions.


"Allan Sheely" <NO@MAIL.HERE> wrote in message
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> On 20 May 2004 02:21:20 -0700, superxml@yahoo.com (Dark Avenger)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Will CAB is a compression format standardly inbuild in windows. And
> >the cab is 16-17Mb while the EXE once extracted is 19Mb ...so it does
> >work!
>
> I just compressed the exe into zip and rar to see the difference.
> zip=18.6mb
> rar=16.8mb
> cab=16.8mb
>
> Considering that everyone has .cab file support built into windows
> it's surprising that more people don't use .cab.

 

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Allan Sheely <NO@MAIL.HERE> wrote in message news:<95lpa0pdg7gagkl5g8hi5qds0qsfaiuvni@4ax.com>...
> On 20 May 2004 02:21:20 -0700, superxml@yahoo.com (Dark Avenger)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Will CAB is a compression format standardly inbuild in windows. And
> >the cab is 16-17Mb while the EXE once extracted is 19Mb ...so it does
> >work!
>
> I just compressed the exe into zip and rar to see the difference.
> zip=18.6mb
> rar=16.8mb
> cab=16.8mb
>
> Considering that everyone has .cab file support built into windows
> it's surprising that more people don't use .cab.

Lets Try Uharc
ALZ:3 ( maximum but oh so ... long wait ) = 16.8Mb ... well I guess
that proves that the EXE file can downsized unto about 16.8mb

Ya know, all those compression tools use different algoritms and work
better on different kind of files. Uharc for instance is great for
compression certain media and ..indeed for Games and alike...

Here is a review online
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=58&perpage=1&pagenum=1

 

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Quoth The Raven "Dark Avenger" <superxml@yahoo.com> in
8c060a4f.0405201644.309e178b@posting.google.com
> Allan Sheely <NO@MAIL.HERE> wrote in message
> news:<95lpa0pdg7gagkl5g8hi5qds0qsfaiuvni@4ax.com>...
>> On 20 May 2004 02:21:20 -0700, superxml@yahoo.com (Dark Avenger)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Will CAB is a compression format standardly inbuild in windows. And
>>> the cab is 16-17Mb while the EXE once extracted is 19Mb ...so it
>>> does work!
>>
>> I just compressed the exe into zip and rar to see the difference.
>> zip=18.6mb
>> rar=16.8mb
>> cab=16.8mb
>>
>> Considering that everyone has .cab file support built into windows
>> it's surprising that more people don't use .cab.
>
> Lets Try Uharc
> ALZ:3 ( maximum but oh so ... long wait ) = 16.8Mb ... well I guess
> that proves that the EXE file can downsized unto about 16.8mb
>
> Ya know, all those compression tools use different algoritms and work
> better on different kind of files. Uharc for instance is great for
> compression certain media and ..indeed for Games and alike...
>
> Here is a review online
>
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=58&perpage=1&pagenum=1

I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office application
on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files fail to copy, but
when you have most of the files on the hdd, it amounts to 1.5gig from a
650mb disk, you can view the files and install correctly, so what kind of
compression is used here? its invisible compression that acts on the fly as
you use the files...

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http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=58&perpage=1&pagenum=1
>
> I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office application
> on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files fail to copy, but
> when you have most of the files on the hdd, it amounts to 1.5gig from a
> 650mb disk, you can view the files and install correctly, so what kind of
> compression is used here? its invisible compression that acts on the fly as
> you use the files...

You did use that option "leave installation files on disk" in that
case most of the 650Mb of the CD stays as copy on your harddisk for
when office needs a function, so it's 1500Mb - 650Mb = 950Mb for
office installation...

That brings back things in reference!

 

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Quoth The Raven "Dark Avenger" <superxml@yahoo.com> in
8c060a4f.0405210703.2578d4e2@posting.google.com
>
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=58&perpage=1&pagenum=1
>>
>> I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office
>> application on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files
>> fail to copy, but when you have most of the files on the hdd, it
>> amounts to 1.5gig from a 650mb disk, you can view the files and
>> install correctly, so what kind of compression is used here? its
>> invisible compression that acts on the fly as you use the files...
>
> You did use that option "leave installation files on disk" in that
> case most of the 650Mb of the CD stays as copy on your harddisk for
> when office needs a function, so it's 1500Mb - 650Mb = 950Mb for
> office installation...
>
> That brings back things in reference!

no-no, this was a pirate copy with all office 2003 applications jammed onto
one disk, I attempted to copy it again for another friend, but no program
would touch it, I manually dragged all the files onto my hard drive to drag
back to a new disk, that failed too, but what I did retrieve was 1.5gig (off
a 650mb cd) UltraISO managed to make a perfect iso and burn it mind you, but
still, what kind of active compression could be at work here that makes
identical files half there size without having to archive them?

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If you were into ehm "burning a back-up cd from purchased original, for
personal use" back in the days when DeltaForce came out, you would have
known this.

It is called DummyFiles, and consists of some dummyfiles, and/or incorrect
file sizes.
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protections_dummy_files.shtml


"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Quoth The Raven "Dark Avenger" <superxml@yahoo.com> in
> 8c060a4f.0405210703.2578d4e2@posting.google.com
> >
>
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=58&perpage=1&pagenum=1
> >>
> >> I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office
> >> application on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files
> >> fail to copy, but when you have most of the files on the hdd, it
> >> amounts to 1.5gig from a 650mb disk, you can view the files and
> >> install correctly, so what kind of compression is used here? its
> >> invisible compression that acts on the fly as you use the files...
> >
> > You did use that option "leave installation files on disk" in that
> > case most of the 650Mb of the CD stays as copy on your harddisk for
> > when office needs a function, so it's 1500Mb - 650Mb = 950Mb for
> > office installation...
> >
> > That brings back things in reference!
>
> no-no, this was a pirate copy with all office 2003 applications jammed
onto
> one disk, I attempted to copy it again for another friend, but no program
> would touch it, I manually dragged all the files onto my hard drive to
drag
> back to a new disk, that failed too, but what I did retrieve was 1.5gig
(off
> a 650mb cd) UltraISO managed to make a perfect iso and burn it mind you,
but
> still, what kind of active compression could be at work here that makes
> identical files half there size without having to archive them?
>
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:56:15 +1000, "Highlandish"
<ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote:


>I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office application
>on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files fail to copy, but
>when you have most of the files on the hdd, it amounts to 1.5gig from a
>650mb disk, you can view the files and install correctly, so what kind of
>compression is used here? its invisible compression that acts on the fly as
>you use the files...

Linux Knoppix does better than that. It has about 2.8gb of data
compressed onto one cd. I don't know what compression technique they
use though.

 

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"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:<2h6ldnF9cfaoU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Quoth The Raven "Dark Avenger" <superxml@yahoo.com> in
> 8c060a4f.0405210703.2578d4e2@posting.google.com
> >
> http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=58&perpage=1&pagenum=1
> >>
> >> I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office
> >> application on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files
> >> fail to copy, but when you have most of the files on the hdd, it
> >> amounts to 1.5gig from a 650mb disk, you can view the files and
> >> install correctly, so what kind of compression is used here? its
> >> invisible compression that acts on the fly as you use the files...
> >
> > You did use that option "leave installation files on disk" in that
> > case most of the 650Mb of the CD stays as copy on your harddisk for
> > when office needs a function, so it's 1500Mb - 650Mb = 950Mb for
> > office installation...
> >
> > That brings back things in reference!
>
> no-no, this was a pirate copy with all office 2003 applications jammed onto
> one disk, I attempted to copy it again for another friend, but no program
> would touch it, I manually dragged all the files onto my hard drive to drag
> back to a new disk, that failed too, but what I did retrieve was 1.5gig (off
> a 650mb cd) UltraISO managed to make a perfect iso and burn it mind you, but
> still, what kind of active compression could be at work here that makes
> identical files half there size without having to archive them?

Depends on the type of file, I am sure some library files and alike
are very easy compressable to a high extend, while the EXE files might
just do 95% as max....

 

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I don't think it's the compression at all.
Compression comes into play everytime you DECOMPRESS the archieve on your
harddrive. Not when copying to a cd.

Quoting Highlandish: "I manually dragged all the files onto my hard drive to
drag
back to a new disk, that failed too, but what I did retrieve was 1.5gig (off
a 650mb cd) UltraISO managed to make a perfect iso and burn it mind you, but
still, what kind of active compression could be at work here that makes
identical files half there size without having to archive them?"

A 300mb file is compressed with zip, and it's compresssed size is 100mb. Now
when you copy this 100mb zip file to other pc, it should take up moreless
100mb, unless you unzip it.

You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb cd? That's
not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as DummyFiles.

 

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Quoth The Raven "Slug" <no@email.here> in
u7jva0t3jlm3085np5rjgkmi0m399g0sfl@4ax.com
> On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:56:15 +1000, "Highlandish"
> <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> I got hold of an office 2003 disk (copy) that has every office
>> application on the one CD, extracting isn't successful as many files
>> fail to copy, but when you have most of the files on the hdd, it
>> amounts to 1.5gig from a 650mb disk, you can view the files and
>> install correctly, so what kind of compression is used here? its
>> invisible compression that acts on the fly as you use the files...
>
> Linux Knoppix does better than that. It has about 2.8gb of data
> compressed onto one cd. I don't know what compression technique they
> use though.

that's right, I have that version of Linux too, it was a ah heck to copy
because I attempted to extract the iso to add my own manual to it. only
UltraISO allowed me to open the iso, add to it and burn it to disk.

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On Sun, 23 May 2004 11:57:52 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
.. n o> wrote:


>You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb cd? That's
>not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as DummyFiles.
>

Yes, it is. Go get Knoppix and install to your HDD. There is about
2.8gb of data on that one cd.

 

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Quoth The Raven "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> in
4l0sc.83454$BD3.10427415@juliett.dax.net
> I don't think it's the compression at all.
> Compression comes into play everytime you DECOMPRESS the archieve on
> your harddrive. Not when copying to a cd.
>
> Quoting Highlandish: "I manually dragged all the files onto my hard
> drive to drag
> back to a new disk, that failed too, but what I did retrieve was
> 1.5gig (off a 650mb cd) UltraISO managed to make a perfect iso and
> burn it mind you, but still, what kind of active compression could be
> at work here that makes identical files half there size without
> having to archive them?"
>
> A 300mb file is compressed with zip, and it's compresssed size is
> 100mb. Now when you copy this 100mb zip file to other pc, it should
> take up moreless 100mb, unless you unzip it.
>
> You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb cd?
> That's not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as DummyFiles.

that is possible that it was dummyfiles if it was a legit program on an
original cd, but consider that this was a compilation of all MS office
products put together by a hacker for pirating purposes, also consider the
knoppix Linux distro, both cd's, when the contents are dragged off the cd,
take more space on a hard drive than on the cd. sure there are cab files
amongst these files, but no compressed archive of any kind have been
actively selected and decompressed in the drag and drop process. all I was
asking is can there be a compression technique that can compress files onto
a disk like these 2 (and possibly more?)

and I do realise that in the process of making an iso file, you can compress
the contents to make the iso a compressed archive its self, and then burn
that iso to disk at that size. perhaps this is the method used.


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Quoth The Raven "Slug" <no@email.here> in
i4d2b0hls2v806e7uv0qjfpme559ss10s3@4ax.com
> On Sun, 23 May 2004 11:57:52 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
> . n o> wrote:
>
>
>> You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb cd?
>> That's not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as DummyFiles.
>>
>
> Yes, it is. Go get Knoppix and install to your HDD. There is about
> 2.8gb of data on that one cd.

that's not exactly what I am saying, sure there are compressed archives on
the knoppix disk that extract on installation, I am talking about drag and
drop size when files are taken off the cd onto the hdd.

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On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:06:22 +1000, "Highlandish"
<ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote:


>that's not exactly what I am saying, sure there are compressed archives on
>the knoppix disk that extract on installation, I am talking about drag and
>drop size when files are taken off the cd onto the hdd.

OK, got you. You're right, that would be impossible.

 

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In article <2hd170Fbk6h9U1@uni-berlin.de>, ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au
says...
> Quoth The Raven "Slug" <no@email.here> in
> i4d2b0hls2v806e7uv0qjfpme559ss10s3@4ax.com
> > On Sun, 23 May 2004 11:57:52 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
> > . n o> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb cd?
> >> That's not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as DummyFiles.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, it is. Go get Knoppix and install to your HDD. There is about
> > 2.8gb of data on that one cd.
>
> that's not exactly what I am saying, sure there are compressed archives on
> the knoppix disk that extract on installation, I am talking about drag and
> drop size when files are taken off the cd onto the hdd.

Don't even need to drag/drop.
open the CD, select all files, select properties: file size shows as
over a gig

 

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Quoth The Raven "Rab" <compex@iinet.net.au> in
MPG.1b1c1797bbbb12df989681@freenews.iinet.net.au
> In article <2hd170Fbk6h9U1@uni-berlin.de>,
> ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au says...
>> Quoth The Raven "Slug" <no@email.here> in
>> i4d2b0hls2v806e7uv0qjfpme559ss10s3@4ax.com
>>> On Sun, 23 May 2004 11:57:52 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a
>>> r t . n o> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb
>>>> cd? That's not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as
>>>> DummyFiles.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it is. Go get Knoppix and install to your HDD. There is about
>>> 2.8gb of data on that one cd.
>>
>> that's not exactly what I am saying, sure there are compressed
>> archives on the knoppix disk that extract on installation, I am
>> talking about drag and drop size when files are taken off the cd
>> onto the hdd.
>
> Don't even need to drag/drop.
> open the CD, select all files, select properties: file size shows as
> over a gig

yup, that's what I am talking about, can the ISO file be made with
compression included? the individual file size when viewing the contents of
an iso will remain the original size, but is compressed as a whole. the new
compressed iso file will fit on a cd, and when officially extracted the
correct way will be twice the size. I have to assume that this is what is
happening, but I am curious enough to be corrected if there are any
knowledgeable takers.

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Nope, That's exatly the symptoms for DummyFiles. If you select the drive
with cd in, and check properties, it shows up like 650-700mb.

If you open the drive, select all, properties shows well over a Gig.

I just tried a ehm backed-up-cd*cough*pirated*cough* version of DeltaForce
black hawk down. Size of the drive is 673Mb, if i select all files, their
size is 4.05Gb! Now if I copy all files to my d drive, it takes 4.07Gb of
disk space. When I install the game, it takes about 900Mb.





"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Quoth The Raven "Rab" <compex@iinet.net.au> in
> MPG.1b1c1797bbbb12df989681@freenews.iinet.net.au
> > In article <2hd170Fbk6h9U1@uni-berlin.de>,
> > ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au says...
> >> Quoth The Raven "Slug" <no@email.here> in
> >> i4d2b0hls2v806e7uv0qjfpme559ss10s3@4ax.com
> >>> On Sun, 23 May 2004 11:57:52 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a
> >>> r t . n o> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You are saying there was actually 1,5GB worth of data on a 650mb
> >>>> cd? That's not possible. It's a cheap cd-protection known as
> >>>> DummyFiles.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, it is. Go get Knoppix and install to your HDD. There is about
> >>> 2.8gb of data on that one cd.
> >>
> >> that's not exactly what I am saying, sure there are compressed
> >> archives on the knoppix disk that extract on installation, I am
> >> talking about drag and drop size when files are taken off the cd
> >> onto the hdd.
> >
> > Don't even need to drag/drop.
> > open the CD, select all files, select properties: file size shows as
> > over a gig
>
> yup, that's what I am talking about, can the ISO file be made with
> compression included? the individual file size when viewing the contents
of
> an iso will remain the original size, but is compressed as a whole. the
new
> compressed iso file will fit on a cd, and when officially extracted the
> correct way will be twice the size. I have to assume that this is what is
> happening, but I am curious enough to be corrected if there are any
> knowledgeable takers.
>
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>
> Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me
>
>

 

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Quoth The Raven "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> in
qznsc.83575$BD3.10467384@juliett.dax.net
> Nope, That's exatly the symptoms for DummyFiles. If you select the
> drive with cd in, and check properties, it shows up like 650-700mb.
>
> If you open the drive, select all, properties shows well over a Gig.
>
> I just tried a ehm backed-up-cd*cough*pirated*cough* version of
> DeltaForce black hawk down. Size of the drive is 673Mb, if i select
> all files, their size is 4.05Gb! Now if I copy all files to my d
> drive, it takes 4.07Gb of disk space. When I install the game, it
> takes about 900Mb.

but why would a free version of Knoppix, a free Linux distro, have dummy
files when they needed every byte of space to include as much as possible?
--
"Design is the art of effectively communicating a message while making
the communication medium invisible."

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I really don't know that. But that does not mean it's not "dummy files".
If such a compression technology ever existed, why in world do you think
games like FarCry, Ut2004, Newerwinter nights, Enter the matrix, Gothic 2
(many more) would ship on 3-5 cd's?? 5cd's contain 703*5= 3,5Gb!
Don't you think they would be using 1 cd's with 4 Gb on it, rather than
expensive Dvd or much heavier 3-5cd's (more shipping weight = less games per
tonn = expensive shipping)


"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Quoth The Raven "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> in
> qznsc.83575$BD3.10467384@juliett.dax.net
> > Nope, That's exatly the symptoms for DummyFiles. If you select the
> > drive with cd in, and check properties, it shows up like 650-700mb.
> >
> > If you open the drive, select all, properties shows well over a Gig.
> >
> > I just tried a ehm backed-up-cd*cough*pirated*cough* version of
> > DeltaForce black hawk down. Size of the drive is 673Mb, if i select
> > all files, their size is 4.05Gb! Now if I copy all files to my d
> > drive, it takes 4.07Gb of disk space. When I install the game, it
> > takes about 900Mb.
>
> but why would a free version of Knoppix, a free Linux distro, have dummy
> files when they needed every byte of space to include as much as possible?
> --
> "Design is the art of effectively communicating a message while making
> the communication medium invisible."
>
> Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me
>
>

 

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On Tue, 25 May 2004 14:52:33 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
.. n o> wrote:

>I really don't know that. But that does not mean it's not "dummy files".
>If such a compression technology ever existed, why in world do you think
>games like FarCry, Ut2004, Newerwinter nights, Enter the matrix, Gothic 2
>(many more) would ship on 3-5 cd's?? 5cd's contain 703*5= 3,5Gb!
>Don't you think they would be using 1 cd's with 4 Gb on it, rather than
>expensive Dvd or much heavier 3-5cd's (more shipping weight = less games per
>tonn = expensive shipping)

Well, Knoppix does have 2.8gb of data on one cdrom so obviously the
game companies haven't clued in to how Knoppix does it yet.