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Here is a problem Im sure some of you have encountered: Your new mini (SM
scout in my case), when fitted into the slotta base, looks like they are
leaning forward at a 20 deg. angle, or a foot is at some wierd angle, etc.
Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would you
correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They sorta
work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it doesnt
stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?

drgrbek
 
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In article <cvnl1f$pmd$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>, relkins,
relkins@u.washington.edu Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> Here is a problem Im sure some of you have encountered: Your new mini (SM
> scout in my case), when fitted into the slotta base, looks like they are
> leaning forward at a 20 deg. angle, or a foot is at some wierd angle, etc.

Oh yeah, been there, seen that. You're not the only one who puts
a mini in the slotta base, takes one look, and then thinks 'Hmmmm,
that's not right.'

> Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would you
> correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
> pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They sorta
> work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it doesnt
> stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?

Sounds like from your above description you've got a passing
familiarity with doing basic conversions. Depends on the mini, in some
cases the posture is off and you might actually have to do a slight bit
of surgery, like using a jewelers saw disconnect on foot from the tab,
and then remove a tiny bit from the back of a knee joint and reposition
the leg. Other times it's simply the foot or end of the foot that wants
to stick up in the air when the mini is positioned in a more normal
position with it's back vertical. In those cases where it's only a
small thing like the foot, I simply use a small stone or green stuff /
epoxy putty on the base to make it look as if the mini is standing on
uneven groud or a piece of debris to explain the 'unusual' foot
position. If it comes right down to removing the whole tab, then
repostioning the feet *should be* a bit less difficult. Once you've
removed the tab - you can put it on any sort of base you like. If
you've got a pin vise (hand drill) - use that to add pins to the heels
of the mini to give it better strength when you glue it to the base. If
you have a slightly wobbly mini - use a solid round or square base and
make the pins extend down into the cavity under the base - and then fill
the base cavity with epoxy and small metal/lead shot as John Hwang
suggested in the 'Gaunts' thread.


Hope that helps,

Myrmidon

--
And I want someone to slap me with a fish every time I buy something
new, assemble it, and then leave it unpainted for months.

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"Myrmidon" <ImNot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c8926b0848850d598a49d@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> In article <cvnl1f$pmd$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>, relkins,
> relkins@u.washington.edu Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> > Here is a problem Im sure some of you have encountered: Your new mini
(SM
> > scout in my case), when fitted into the slotta base, looks like they are
> > leaning forward at a 20 deg. angle, or a foot is at some wierd angle,
etc.
>
> Oh yeah, been there, seen that. You're not the only one who puts
> a mini in the slotta base, takes one look, and then thinks 'Hmmmm,
> that's not right.'
>
> > Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would
you
> > correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
> > pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They
sorta
> > work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it
doesnt
> > stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?
>
> Sounds like from your above description you've got a passing
> familiarity with doing basic conversions. Depends on the mini, in some
> cases the posture is off and you might actually have to do a slight bit
> of surgery, like using a jewelers saw disconnect on foot from the tab,
> and then remove a tiny bit from the back of a knee joint and reposition
> the leg. Other times it's simply the foot or end of the foot that wants
> to stick up in the air when the mini is positioned in a more normal
> position with it's back vertical. In those cases where it's only a
> small thing like the foot, I simply use a small stone or green stuff /
> epoxy putty on the base to make it look as if the mini is standing on
> uneven groud or a piece of debris to explain the 'unusual' foot
> position. If it comes right down to removing the whole tab, then
> repostioning the feet *should be* a bit less difficult. Once you've
> removed the tab - you can put it on any sort of base you like. If
> you've got a pin vise (hand drill) - use that to add pins to the heels
> of the mini to give it better strength when you glue it to the base. If
> you have a slightly wobbly mini - use a solid round or square base and
> make the pins extend down into the cavity under the base - and then fill
> the base cavity with epoxy and small metal/lead shot as John Hwang
> suggested in the 'Gaunts' thread.
>
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Myrmidon

Muchos Gracias. Im going to try the "Cut to reposition, green stuff like
silly" tip you suggested. And would I be incorrect in thinking that GW
knows about these problems, yet wont do any QA to prevent them as they know
we buy them anyway?

Y'know, those rackham minis look purty nice.....

Yours in pessimism and heresy,

drgrbek
 
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"relkins" <relkins@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:cvnl1f$pmd$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
> Here is a problem Im sure some of you have encountered: Your new mini (SM
> scout in my case), when fitted into the slotta base, looks like they are
> leaning forward at a 20 deg. angle, or a foot is at some wierd angle, etc.
> Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would
> you
> correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
> pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They
> sorta
> work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it doesnt
> stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?

The standing sniper scout? Well you can just bend the tabs so they aren't
leaning forward but then you've got the feet looking weird tilting upward.
My solution was to use pliers to reposition the legs, as you suggest above.
Bend the legs at the ankles and knees (but mostly at the ankles) till the
figure's stance looks more natural. To avoid scarring the metal I stuck a
couple pieces of popsicle stick on the pliers' teeth. A second set of
pliers to hold the figure's body or maybe a vice clamp will make things
easier.


--

-smithdoerr
 
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In article <3894mhF5k7qplU1@individual.net>, smithdoerr,
askmeforname@hotmail.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>
> "relkins" <relkins@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:cvnl1f$pmd$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
> > Here is a problem Im sure some of you have encountered: Your new mini (SM
> > scout in my case), when fitted into the slotta base, looks like they are
> > leaning forward at a 20 deg. angle, or a foot is at some wierd angle, etc.
> > Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would
> > you
> > correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
> > pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They
> > sorta
> > work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it doesnt
> > stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?
>
> The standing sniper scout? Well you can just bend the tabs so they aren't
> leaning forward but then you've got the feet looking weird tilting upward.
> My solution was to use pliers to reposition the legs, as you suggest above.
> Bend the legs at the ankles and knees (but mostly at the ankles) till the
> figure's stance looks more natural. To avoid scarring the metal I stuck a
> couple pieces of popsicle stick on the pliers' teeth. A second set of
> pliers to hold the figure's body or maybe a vice clamp will make things
> easier.

Wrapping the ends of the pliers with layers of masking tape or
duct tape works to prevent the pliers from scarring the surface they're
holding as well. (Old trick used when good jewelers pliers aren't
handy.)

Who knew that in the 40,000th Millennium 'Scurvy' and 'Poor Posture'
would be 'great enemy' of their times.

Myr :)


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much you are going to have to make per year in order to play.

- Eric Noland

# 1082. Pound for pound I can buy cocaine cheaper than
raise a Warhammer army

- Roy Cox

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****

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"smithdoerr" <askmeforname@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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To avoid scarring the metal I stuck a
> couple pieces of popsicle stick on the pliers' teeth. A second set of
> pliers to hold the figure's body or maybe a vice clamp will make things
> easier.

After a pair of cannon-plug pliers, an old bicycle inner tube cut up is
super handy for this, and free!
 
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relkins wrote:
> Here is a problem Im sure some of you have encountered: Your new mini (SM
> scout in my case), when fitted into the slotta base, looks like they are
> leaning forward at a 20 deg. angle, or a foot is at some wierd angle, etc.
> Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would you
> correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
> pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They sorta
> work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it doesnt
> stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?

Cutting the tab is the worst solution, as it destroys model integrity
that allows for the strongest mounting to the base.

Over 90% of the time, the best way to fix the angled foot problem is to
simply grip the entire tab in needle-nose pliers and to *twist* the
shoulders of the model around the feet. This will effectively bend one
leg back, and the other forward. When the legs shift fore/aft, the feet
angle up/down, so that both will sit square on the base. As GW legs are
thick and stubby, this takes quite a bit of effort, but it is doable for
most models with separate legs.

Also, over 90% of the time, it won't be necessary to file the tab.
Indeed, usually, I find it necessary to bend the ends so that they'll
dig into the slot for a mechanical grip in addition to the glued grip.


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--- John Hwang "JohnHwang...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny
 
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Myrmidon wrote:
> relkins, relkins@u.washington.edu Varfed out the following in Timo speak...

>>Basically, the mini is not sitting flush and true in the base. How would you
>>correct this? Ive tried gently bending the offending bits w/ needle nose
>>pliers, cutting off the tab and CA glueing the feet to the base. They sorta
>>work, but are still quite noticeable. I do file down the tab so it doesnt
>>stick out the bottom of the slot. Any pointers?
>
> Sounds like from your above description you've got a passing
> familiarity with doing basic conversions.

[SNIP]

Wow, that is so much work.

I recommend to at least *try* bending the legs before undertaking upon
major surgery. 😉

--
--- John Hwang "JohnHwang...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny
 
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