4790k temp problems

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dusktildawn48

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So i just got the 4790k last week. Got to oc'ing (4.6) and monitoring temps today, and with my h100i the temps sit around 65 for the first 20 or so minutes and then just randomly shoot up to 100. I already reapplied the thermal paste and made sure the cooler was seated right but still happening the same way every time. This is with monitoring with realtemp, coretemp, and msi afterburner. Did i get a bad processor? I could still exchange it with microcenter.
 
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RobCrezz

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Not all chips are created equal unfortunately. Yours possibly has a better application of TIM under the heatspreader, or just doesnt create as much heat (lower voltage?).

Either way, not all give the same results.
 

dusktildawn48

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could you tell me what batch yours is from?
 

Arksun

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Yeah sure, on the box the batch no. is L418C133.
Its the retail box version, pre-ordered at dabs.com here in the UK.
 

Arksun

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Well like I said earlier, mine is an L4 batch of 4790K and I've got excellent temperatures. On the overclockers.co.uk forum there's a really long thread there on the 4790K. Some saying L4 is better, one guy saying he's getting stable 4.9ghz with an L3 batch. Go figure. I don't really think the batch number has much to do with it then,maybe just the chip 'lottery'. But I still question whether dusks specific issue here is the chip. I'm wondering if his BIOS version is the latest available. Seems some motherboards pushed the voltages up far higher than actually needed on certain BIOS versions.

With mine I'm using an Asus Z97 Pro, latest BIOS.
 

dusktildawn48

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im using an asus maximus vii hero and no i havent updated the bios, just got the board like a week ago. should i put everything at default but lower the voltage?
 

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That would explain it. 1.7 Voltage is extremely high. That is for 6+ GHz with LN2 cooling, not daily use. It's no wonder. Set it to maybe 1.25 or 1.275. If you are talking about Input Voltage, 1.8 is good. For VCORE, 1.25 is fine.
 

Andrew Buck

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It is a 14 day return policy, so they need to hurry and get that batch in.
 

Arksun

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If it can be shown it doesn't work as intended at stock speeds yes, but warranty won't cover overclocking ability.

Out of interest, what cpu voltage do you get running at stock 4ghz turbo OFF, at both idle and 100% load?
 

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Hi Guys,

Interesting thread! I've been carefully reading through this, and unless I've missed it, I think something has been overlooked concerning Prime95, and the sudden increase in temperatures described above.

As I've seen in 95% of these temperature threads, nowhere over the course of all these posts has anyone asked or mentioned which Prime95 test was being run. I think that "Blend" was run, and has caused a certain degree of confusion in this thread. If there's a problem with the current version, 28.5, I'm not aware of it.

Prime95's default test, Blend, is a memory stability test which has a cyclic workload with fluctuating temperatures. Large FFT's is a composite of Blend and Small FFT's. Both tests do indeed ramp up temperatures at approximately 16 minutes, when the test increments to less memory intensive iteration types. At 32 minutes it ramps temperatures back down, so Blend and Large FFT's both have a cycle time of about 32 minutes.

The first 16 minute segment of Blend is more memory intensive, so processor temperatures are lower. The second 16 minute segment is less memory intensive, so wattage and temperatures are higher. Shown below in the center of the Chart is the transition which occurs at approximately 16 minutes. The Chart is 13 minutes wide.

Shown below is Small FFT's, Blend, Linpack and Intel Burn Test.

Small FFT's is a steady-state 100% workload that does not fluctuate, nor is there a transition. Shown below is Small FFT's. The center of the Chart is approximately 16 minutes into the test.

SpeedFan Charts are auto scaling, so on the chart above you're looking at 1C increments. The dip in the middle of the chart is the cores following my ambient temperature down before the A/C compressor cycled off toward the right side of the chart.

If the chart above was scaled similar to the second chart, then the temperature would appear as a relatively smooth line. Here's what that looks like:

I just ran this on my 4770K which is an L3. It's de-lidded and lapped, so the temperatures are very close between cores compared to most of these processors.

Although this explanation doesn't solve dusktildawn48's problem, I think you can appreciate that it's important to be specific when discussing Prime95 testing, so that we don't introduce another set of variables into the original problem.

Also, you guys might want to give this a read: Intel Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Hope this helps to clear up at least part of the puzzle,

CT :sol:
 
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Yeah, as I said he shouldn't be confused if he's using prime95. When I'm running prime, I get to 90c on small fft's fairly quick. Inel XTU, AIDA64, OCCT or any other stresstests on the other side never get me above 68c, not even after hours.
 

dusktildawn48

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did what you asked and it seems like the voltage idle is .722 and load is 1.071. temps still got pretty high at 67c 68c 65c 62c. this is with turbo off running at 4.0
 

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If thats prime95 after 10 minutes with temps peaking around 68C that actually sounds 'ok' (although thats what I get with air cooler single fan slow speed, so perhaps would expect better from water cooler) ,and the voltage level seems perfectly fine there too, so I guess its just an overclocking issue then, maybe your motherboard pushing the voltage a little too high than is necessary as the frequency goes higher?
 

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Try checking the screws that you used to install the H100i. When I built my friends machine, I used the screws for LGA1150 instead of LGA 2011( the h100i comes with a set of screws for each socket) and got very similar temperature results. The h100i wasn't "touching" the CPU properly. When I realized my error and changed the screws to the proper ones, everything worked beautifully!