franchise :
If this is supposed to be their new supercard, do you think they'll make an all in wonder version of it?
I haven't owned an ATI card Since my X800XT all in wonder, what ever happened to those? AIW cards were awesome, why don't they offer them anymore...
I miss the AIW cards too. I stuck with AGP too long and didn't get anything past the AIW 9800 Pro, but I still have that and an AIW 8500 128 in the closet just in case I set up an AGP box for anything.
I "blame" AMD for the demise of the All in Wonder cards, but it might have been ATI's decision once the 2xxx series arrived. Now, you can't find a used PCIe X1900 AIW if you try.
At any rate, the 3xxx series is not bad. Why do people diss it? ATI didn't fudge the Crysis demo's benchmarks with a driver that didn't display the water correctly. Nvidia does that kind of thing when the Next Big Game arrives. Now, both ATI and Nvidia are reported as fudging Futuremark Vantage drivers to favor a particular card in the individual benchmark that makes them look best.
Anyways, I'm happy with my 3870x2, except inasmuch as I bought it 4-6 months before the 4870x2 arrives. If I'd known, I would have just gone 3870 and waited. What ever happened to roadmaps that gave you an idea what's coming out over the next year?
royalcrown :
Please remember how the 300 series was supposed to rock ? I say ATI is full of S*** and this will just about tie my gts. Besides you just know Nvidia is waiting to embarrass them yet again.
You are so predictable. They leapfrog. Pure and simple. ATI's had a few bad cards, but so has Nvidia. If you want to go back to a low end card like the X300, then I'll bring up the FX 5200.
I actually think you meant the 3xxx series, which isn't bad. Not at all. It solved issues with the 2xxx series and brought them closer to the dominance they had in the Radeon 9800 and the X1900 generations.
Maybe the 4xxx series will bring back that dominance. Maybe not. At any rate, Nvidia's been holding back just like Intel because they don't feel there's competition.
When games aren't the only thing that matters, ATI beats Nvidia. In games, they tie some and lose some. The win a very few. At any rate, in my favorite TWIMTBP game, LOTR Online, my performance with a 3870x2 is still good because the game treats Crossfire and SLI equally badly.
Maybe I'd be better off with an 8800gt, but not in my other games where ATI shines, and not when AVIVO matters. When will you take a balanced view of both companies?