Someone posted that the 4870 isnt faster than the 3870x2. Whoever that was, they better look again. To me, this is very similar with what happened with the 8xxx series and the 2xxx series. The 2900 could only manage to almost equal the GTS. This time is different for many reasons. One, its beating the 260 already, and solidly. It comes in cheaper, and nVidia will have an extremelt hard time competing at price point. The scaling issues this time favor ATI moreso, as these cards are made for it, or will see better results in a x2 solution over the previous x2. And finally, there really isnt a G200x2 on the horizon as a possibility. Also, the G280 isnt the increase in performance over the 260 is, like the GTX was over the GTS. @boredatcanon, yea thats it. Great stuff