Hi
I'm planning to build myself a new PC (or rather have someone else build it for me) possibly this April. I'm willing to pay around 1800-2200 € for the components. But the less that it costs the better, of course. Otherwise 2200 € PC would be a no-brainer. I'll buy all the parts from Jimm's.fi, Finland.
CPU is puzzling me here and that's where I need your help people. I'm not asking for any tips on how to choose the rest of my components. I'm fairly confident that I can pick the best offers for the rest of the components when the time comes to purchase them. However, if you notice a bad motherboard with lots of issues, do let me know.
I was first thinking of going with the 7700X. There's a good bundle with 7700X and MSI B650 Tomahawk motherboard, which has just about everything that I want. However, after I made this decision, I accidentally came upon these Reddit threads where people have complained about some issues with 7700X in particular:
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/zkjqak/need_help_troubleshooting_msi_b650_tomahawk_ryzen/
And then there are these several threads and reviews where it is said that 7700X and all of the 7000-series run insanely hot (over 90 degrees celsius). So... should I avoid them?
5600X would also suit my needs just fine, but that platform doesn't really enable any future upgrades. Perhaps a GPU upgrade to something a little better if I also upgrade my CPU to 5800X3D but that sounds a bit like waste of money. And when I eventually do have to upgrade to a whole new generation of CPUs, I need to replace my RAM and motherboard too. At least in theory 7700X does have an upgrade path and the DDR5 should be good enough for many years.
And then there's of course the 13600K. It's just that JImm's.fi has a terrible selection of motherboards for it. At least DDR5 motherboards. And again there's no upgrade path for it's motherboard, unlike B650 (AM5). Then again, CPU usually lasts just fine for many years so I'd probably not benefit from AM5's upgrade path as I would probably just skip those next generation Ryzen CPUs anyway. 13600K is the most expensive out of the trio and its motherboards are at least as expensive as B650s.
But if 13600K is much more reliable than 7700X, then I'm willing to seriously think about purchasing it. What are your thoughts? Is 7700X better than its reputation? Is there something bad about 13600K that I don't know about?
I list the parts below for the 5600X and 7700X builds that I were thinking, just to give some idea of what I'm after anyway.
5600X
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€199.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€199.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€72.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€53.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€669.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€129.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.90 @ Jimm's)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€135.00 @ Jimm's)
Total: €1810.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-15 13:14 EET+0200
7700X
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor (€399.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€289.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€165.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€53.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€669.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€129.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.90 @ Jimm's)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€135.00 @ Jimm's)
Total: €2093.30 (including bundle discount for CPU and motherboard).
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-15 13:16 EET+0200
13600K
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (€369.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€299.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory (€170.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€53.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€669.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€129.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.90 @ Jimm's)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€135.00 @ Jimm's)
Total: €2178.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-15 18:15 EET+0200
I'm planning to build myself a new PC (or rather have someone else build it for me) possibly this April. I'm willing to pay around 1800-2200 € for the components. But the less that it costs the better, of course. Otherwise 2200 € PC would be a no-brainer. I'll buy all the parts from Jimm's.fi, Finland.
CPU is puzzling me here and that's where I need your help people. I'm not asking for any tips on how to choose the rest of my components. I'm fairly confident that I can pick the best offers for the rest of the components when the time comes to purchase them. However, if you notice a bad motherboard with lots of issues, do let me know.
I was first thinking of going with the 7700X. There's a good bundle with 7700X and MSI B650 Tomahawk motherboard, which has just about everything that I want. However, after I made this decision, I accidentally came upon these Reddit threads where people have complained about some issues with 7700X in particular:
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/zkjqak/need_help_troubleshooting_msi_b650_tomahawk_ryzen/
And then there are these several threads and reviews where it is said that 7700X and all of the 7000-series run insanely hot (over 90 degrees celsius). So... should I avoid them?
5600X would also suit my needs just fine, but that platform doesn't really enable any future upgrades. Perhaps a GPU upgrade to something a little better if I also upgrade my CPU to 5800X3D but that sounds a bit like waste of money. And when I eventually do have to upgrade to a whole new generation of CPUs, I need to replace my RAM and motherboard too. At least in theory 7700X does have an upgrade path and the DDR5 should be good enough for many years.
And then there's of course the 13600K. It's just that JImm's.fi has a terrible selection of motherboards for it. At least DDR5 motherboards. And again there's no upgrade path for it's motherboard, unlike B650 (AM5). Then again, CPU usually lasts just fine for many years so I'd probably not benefit from AM5's upgrade path as I would probably just skip those next generation Ryzen CPUs anyway. 13600K is the most expensive out of the trio and its motherboards are at least as expensive as B650s.
But if 13600K is much more reliable than 7700X, then I'm willing to seriously think about purchasing it. What are your thoughts? Is 7700X better than its reputation? Is there something bad about 13600K that I don't know about?
I list the parts below for the 5600X and 7700X builds that I were thinking, just to give some idea of what I'm after anyway.
5600X
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€199.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€199.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€72.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€53.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€669.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€129.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.90 @ Jimm's)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€135.00 @ Jimm's)
Total: €1810.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-15 13:14 EET+0200
7700X
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor (€399.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€289.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€165.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€53.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€669.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€129.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.90 @ Jimm's)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€135.00 @ Jimm's)
Total: €2093.30 (including bundle discount for CPU and motherboard).
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-15 13:16 EET+0200
13600K
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (€369.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€299.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory (€170.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€53.00 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (€669.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€129.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.90 @ Jimm's)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€135.00 @ Jimm's)
Total: €2178.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-15 18:15 EET+0200
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