thanks for the replies guys im from S.A so i cant tell you the price on the 560ti SOC cause i wont no the price in $USD any way yes i am comparing an factory OC card to a ref. 570 but im also looking at the fact that the 570 cost so much more than the 560ti and performs as good as the 570 ...... small question >>> my card gave up and the store is deciding to give me credit so im stuck by what i should take can your"ll help me with that? im looking at spending (at the current USD vs ZAR ) $395 which is R3000 here in S.A basically you can use the price of the 560ti by your'll as a ref. and advice me on a card to get around that price please i haven't had a card now for 2 weeks and kinda missing the online world..... heard that the 6xx is coming out this month but not sure what the performance vs price ratio would be so i could wait for nothing or it can be a great gain for waiting please just put yourself in my shoes for a second and help me out im so confused what to get at the same time i dont wanna buy something im gonna regret so final question is what card should i buy with the price been around the 560ti "s price and is you say go more than that please also say why you feel it is worth going more in price thanks guys i really appreciate the help