5800's went up in price..

[tydalwave]

newegg
5850 $299
5870 $399

I read somewhere on the forums here ( can't remember what post ) that prices would go up b/c S&D. Well they did... ( $400 sounds a helluva lot worse than $379 when asking the wife for a X-mas present )


and damn that APO shipping cost...

 

[shadow187]

Launch a few months ago and get decent sales (sell outs look really good too) and have the market to yourself with fantastic press coverage or launch along with nVidia and have the fight for sales and press coverage?


Seems an easy choice to me.

That's what I was going at with the Market Share. People look at how great these new cards are, see they're new capabilities, and see their price, and they want to pounce 'em. All of this coverage will give ATI the feeling of, "Latest and Greatest," that they've needed.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Most importantly, ATI DX11 product is out, and in devs hands, and is shaping the direction of future games on a scale ATI hasnt enjoyed in awhile, and thats more worry for nVidia than low supply high demand impact in the channel is for nVidia to rejoice.

 

[deadcell]

Son of a bitch. 5800 series prices are going up and the GTX295 is not dropping so I can afford to run quad with a second one. Most games stress up to 3 GPUs anyway (Crysis), and that 4th one is just going to be for the ride. I rather do 2x5870. What do you guys think?

 

[TheViper]

2 HD 5870's are certainly better than 2 GTX 295's for exactly the reason you gave. The performance scale between 2 GPU's and 4 GPU's puts the 5870's in favor.

And of course you don't need near as much power to run them and you get DX11. Cheaper too.

 

[shadow187]

And you can swap one out for a 5970 if you get bored, hmm?

 

[deadcell]

I agree. The 5870 was under development when I got my GTX295, so I didn't know what was going to hit us. I also like the amount of power consumed by the 5870 than the GTX295, which requires minimum of whopping 680W! DX11 and cheaper price tag also are very attractive. ATI seems to have the upper hand right now. Lets see how the GT300 cards will compare upon their release if not at the end of this year, the 1stQ of 2010. In time we shall see.

 

[SmallTown]

Wouldn't surprise me if they were holding a bunch back to release right before Christmas at the higher price.

 

[TheViper]

Not sure if you guys heard or not but nVidia released a press release today with the target release for Fermi being Q1 2010. Their Q1 starts on January 26 and ends April 25.

This means they'll launch (if on target) anywhere between those dates.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20091105234423_Nvidia_to_Ramp_Up_Fermi_Graphics_Cards_Only_in_2010.html

 

[deadcell]

No, I didn't know that. They need to hall ass though before ATI eats the whole damn pie. I hope they repeat the same performance level as they did with the GT200 series Vs. the 4800. Very eager to find out. Thanks for the info...

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

So, options are limited, and hopefully TSMC will be right on their word, saying that the 40nm problems will end by years end, actually before years end.
Im sure itll be awhile before we see any price reductions, no competition, low output all leading towards lower prices not happening.
Even if the 40nm comes around soon, theres backlogs of orders to fill, eating up any first increases in production.
Also, ATI will eventually have their x2 cards out, and those too will make an impact on total available 58xx cores

 

[deadcell]

I second that.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Here in the UK the gouging on ATi has already started so although they are both on pre order the difference between the cheapest GTX295(£289.98) and the top end 5870(£520.98) is £231. ATi the value choice. :lol:

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

20 bucks here ijn the states, poor UKers

 

[Mousemonkey]

I would not be at all surprised if vendors over here didn't start jacking up the prices on the rest of the 5 series citing 'shortage of supply' as the cause, it happened with the G0 Q6600 so it wouldn't be a shocker.

 

[TheViper]

I thought Europe was pretty strict about price gouging?

 

[Mousemonkey]

I thought Europe was pretty strict about price gouging?

That would be the first I'd heard and I've been here for over forty years :lol: . Stores can charge pretty much what they want be it very high or very low it's up to the owners of the business to decide.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Consequences to price gouging here in the states is limited to a few things, like when a hurricane wipes out a few refieries, some run the price waaay up at the pumps, and do get nailed for it, but it isnt cited and punished for doing it that often

 

[Hatchet]

Newegg price gouged like mad on the intell x25-m SSD's too with them in short supply. They were charging near $400 when it should have been $225ish.

 

[Homeboy2]

newegg
5850 $299
5870 $399

I read somewhere on the forums here ( can't remember what post ) that prices would go up b/c S&D. Well they did... ( $400 sounds a helluva lot worse than $379 when asking the wife for a X-mas present )


and damn that APO shipping cost...

just proves what i said originally is true, under priced them from the get go.

 

[Homeboy2]

IMO the whole rollout was a big FAIL. I would have waited 2 more months to release the cards w/o having the shortage issue. Companies like DELL/Alienware/Cyberpower are having MAJOR issues due to the shortage and most of the high end PC's are selling with outdated 295's and 285's.... And trust me if you are going to spend 3-4k on a pre-built PC it better have a next gen GPU or you are basically wasting your time and cash....

yeh amd is selling every card they can make and can even increase price, really a huge fail! :lol: 😗

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

100% agreed

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Not that any of those high end prebuilts might come with, ohhh say, a 4890 or a 4870 or a x2, naw, that couldnt be happening

 

[rangers]

Also... I noticed that newegg has also taken from their listings an Asus 5870 and an Asus 5850 from there along with others it looks like... I can understand "Out of Stock" but now just not even listed anymore... what is really going on here?

i think it has a lot to do with the end of the $, i dont know whats happening in America just now but im a bit scared, if all that FEMA stuff is true

 

[leon2006]

After 4 weeks there's several XFX 5850 and one(1) Diamond 5870($399) at Frys. No 4890s for straight 4 weeks.

I asked for XFX 5870 and the store Manager replied that shipments are due early next week and that the items on the shelves are all new deliveries.

I'm tentative with Diamond due to horrible warranty policy although the boards now are labelled 2 years.

newegg is still zero inventory for 5870.

This is a major screw up in TSMC that even the old products are taking a hit.

 

[maxiim]

I waited for a couple weeks to get the 5850. Kept getting notifications from newegg hat they had the Asus and XFX in stock. But they didnt >.> first newegg screwup for me. The frys store here in phoenix had 4 in stock and had em for 3 days maybe. I managed to snag one of them with a price of 319.99$. You just cannot find them anywhere, hence them raising the price about 10$ everytime they get a shipment of 3 or 4.