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<kilo_effects@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> So, I am going to give 6600GT a try. If newegg won't take it
> back, I just sell it on eBay.

Or get a better power supply for $40+.


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The problem with Dell's power supply, from what I read, is that it's
proprietary. Standard ATX won't work. I have to order from Dell.
 
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>For instance, a _good_ 300w might be
>3.3v = 28a
>5v = 30a
>12v = 15a
>
>whereas a cheap one might be
>3.3v = 20a
>5v = 25a
>12v = 12a

What is your opinion on an Antec 330 TruePower running a 6600GT? I think it
will be all right I'm just looking for another opinion. Sooner ot later the
6600GT is my next card.

330 True Rails

+3.3 = 28
+5v = 30
+12v = 22

-------------------------------
System Specs

2500+ Barton on an Abit NF7-S
512 Megs 3200

2 Hard Drives - (7200rpm) & (5400rpm)

1 52X CD-RW
1CDROM 32X

Geforce 4 - 4200 128 Megs

Running 8 cooling fans, not counting the 2 PS fans.
 
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The 6600GT pci-e pulls almost all it's current from the 12v, and that would
have plenty.
On my similar system, if the agp bridge pulled alot from the 5v I'd be right
at or past the limit.

Here are the sites to use to figure it out:

http://takaman.jp/D/?english

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce6600gt-oc_3.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/geforce6600gt-oc/6600gt_power_table-b.gif&1=1

I'm waiting for xbit to measure an agp 6600GT.

I've got an Antec SL300, 2200+ amd mobile as a 2800+, 2 512 pc2700, 2 7200
hd's, sound blaster live value, slow speed fans.

I know I'll be ok if the agp doesn't add alot to the 5v.

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"PRIVATE1964" <private1964@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >For instance, a _good_ 300w might be
>>3.3v = 28a
>>5v = 30a
>>12v = 15a
>>
>>whereas a cheap one might be
>>3.3v = 20a
>>5v = 25a
>>12v = 12a
>
> What is your opinion on an Antec 330 TruePower running a 6600GT? I think
> it
> will be all right I'm just looking for another opinion. Sooner ot later
> the
> 6600GT is my next card.
>
> 330 True Rails
>
> +3.3 = 28
> +5v = 30
> +12v = 22
>
> -------------------------------
> System Specs
>
> 2500+ Barton on an Abit NF7-S
> 512 Megs 3200
>
> 2 Hard Drives - (7200rpm) & (5400rpm)
>
> 1 52X CD-RW
> 1CDROM 32X
>
> Geforce 4 - 4200 128 Megs
>
> Running 8 cooling fans, not counting the 2 PS fans.
>
>
>
 
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<kilo_effects@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The problem with Dell's power supply, from what I read, is that it's
> proprietary. Standard ATX won't work. I have to order from Dell.
I hope it's not like my friend's NEC was back when. I told her not to rub
that chip but -- she wrecked the motherboard. To replace it with an NEC
would have been hundreds! So she got everything but the motherboard put in a
new barebones, with a new case with psu and motherboard, for about $120.


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>
>Ed, Thanks. Guess I am out of luck. The numbers are
>
>3.3v = 18a
>5v = 22a
>12v = 14a
>
>Would 5900XT work?

I'm sorry to jump in here, but if you don't have enough for a 6600GT your
certainly won't have enough for a 5900XT as far as I know.
The power requirement is actually lower for the 6600GT then most of the other
fast video cards such as 5900, 6800, 9800Pro etc....etc. I'm going by some
reviews I have read for the 6600GT which mentioned a power requirement of 300
watts. Most of the other cards are around 350 watts.
 
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>The 6600GT pci-e pulls almost all it's current from the 12v, and that would
>have plenty.
>On my similar system, if the agp bridge pulled alot from the 5v I'd be right
>at or past the limit.
>
>Here are the sites to use to figure it out:
>
>http://takaman.jp/D/?english
>
>http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce6600gt-oc_3.html
>
>
>http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/geforce6600gt-oc/
6600gt_power_table-b.gif&1=1
>
>I'm waiting for xbit to measure an agp 6600GT.
>
>I've got an Antec SL300, 2200+ amd mobile as a 2800+, 2 512 pc2700, 2 7200
>hd's, sound blaster live value, slow speed fans.
>
>I know I'll be ok if the agp doesn't add alot to the 5v.
>

What rail does the AGP version of the 6600GT pull from the most +12 or +5, It
must also pull some current from the +3.3 right? Thanks.
 
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"PRIVATE1964" <private1964@aol.com> wrote
> What rail does the AGP version of the 6600GT pull from the most +12 or +5,
> It
> must also pull some current from the +3.3 right? Thanks.
xbitlabs hasn't tested one yet. For the pci-e they found it was mostly on
the 12v, a little bit of 5v, and no 3.3v at all.
I'm waiting to see when they'll test one.
Though I'm beginning to gravitate toward the February agp 6600 (non-gt) as
the pci-e ones overclock well, some fantastically.

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>
>Thank you both very much! I tried the calculator. My machine
>would seem to work, though barely. Also, according to this guy
>
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati/msg/3
50b2d73aa943a72
>
>5900XT would work (his system is similar to mine).
>
>So, I am going to give 6600GT a try. If newegg won't take it
>back, I just sell it on eBay.

Your using a Dell right? Worst case you could just get a Dell replacement
supply they can be little bit more expensive then a normal ATX supply though.
I think your taking a chance with either card with that low of a supply, but
Good Luck anyway I hope it works out for you.
 
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PRIVATE1964 wrote:
> >> The problem with Dell's power supply, from what I read, is that
it's
> >> proprietary. Standard ATX won't work. I have to order from Dell.
>
> Didn't I post that already, maybe it was another thread.
>
> There is a website that sells Dell compatible supplies, I don't
remember the
> name of the website anymore though. You could try Google. I'm sure
something
> will come up.

pcpowercooling.com ?

It sells a "Turbo-Cool 425 Dell Deluxe" (for Dell Dimension 4500)
for $149. :^(
 
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>> The problem with Dell's power supply, from what I read, is that it's
>> proprietary. Standard ATX won't work. I have to order from Dell.

Didn't I post that already, maybe it was another thread.

There is a website that sells Dell compatible supplies, I don't remember the
name of the website anymore though. You could try Google. I'm sure something
will come up.
 
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>For the pci-e they found it was mostly on
>the 12v, a little bit of 5v, and no 3.3v at all.
>I'm waiting to see when they'll test one.
>Though I'm beginning to gravitate toward the February agp 6600 (non-gt) as
>the pci-e ones overclock well, some fantastically.

Good info Thanks.
 
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>I have to order from Dell.

There are other places that sell Dell compatible supplies.
 
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PRIVATE1964 wrote:
> >pcpowercooling.com ?
> >
> >It sells a "Turbo-Cool 425 Dell Deluxe" (for Dell Dimension 4500)
> >for $149. :^(
>
> Yes, I think that is the website I was thinking of...Thanks.
>
> I wonder why no one has invented an adapter for the Dell motherboards
so you
> can use any ATX supply. Isn't the only difference the pin placement?

Thanks, pal. Someone actually is selling a Dell power supply converter
for $13.95.

http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/dellconverter.html

Don't know if it works with standard ATX. I'll try it if 6600GT
doesn't work on my machine.
 
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>pcpowercooling.com ?
>
>It sells a "Turbo-Cool 425 Dell Deluxe" (for Dell Dimension 4500)
>for $149. :^(

Yes, I think that is the website I was thinking of...Thanks.

I wonder why no one has invented an adapter for the Dell motherboards so you
can use any ATX supply. Isn't the only difference the pin placement?
 
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On 28 Dec 2004 22:03:59 GMT, private1964@aol.com (PRIVATE1964) wrote:

>>pcpowercooling.com ?
>>
>>It sells a "Turbo-Cool 425 Dell Deluxe" (for Dell Dimension 4500)
>>for $149. :^(
>
>Yes, I think that is the website I was thinking of...Thanks.
>
>I wonder why no one has invented an adapter for the Dell motherboards so you
>can use any ATX supply. Isn't the only difference the pin placement?

It's possible (I haven't researched it) that Dell has a patent on the
connector configuration.

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>It's possible (I haven't researched it) that Dell has a patent on the
>connector configuration.

I was thinking that if it was my Dell, I would measure all the voltages and get
a pin out for the connector. Then cut the connector off and solder it back on
to a female ATX connector the proper way it should be and that would be an
adapter.
 
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>http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/power_supplies/selector/dell.htm

Sure are expensive, it must be the gold plated Molex connectors.
 
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>
>Thanks, pal. Someone actually is selling a Dell power supply converter
>for $13.95.
>
>http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/dellconverter.html
>
>Don't know if it works with standard ATX. I'll try it if 6600GT
>doesn't work on my machine.
>

Welcome,
That's exactly what I was thinking of. I didn't know someone was actually
selling them though. I would make sure it will work with all standard ATX
supplies before buying it. They make it sound like it will only work with their
supply, and then you would be right back to square one again.
 
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PRIVATE1964 wrote:

>> Thanks, pal. Someone actually is selling a Dell power supply
>> converter for $13.95.
>>
>> http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/dellconverter.html
>>
>> Don't know if it works with standard ATX. I'll try it if 6600GT
>> doesn't work on my machine.
>>
>
> Welcome,
> That's exactly what I was thinking of. I didn't know someone was
> actually selling them though. I would make sure it will work with all
> standard ATX supplies before buying it. They make it sound like it
> will only work with their supply, and then you would be right back to
> square one again.

Well, it says:

"This Dell to ATX adapter converts between the non-standard pinout to the
standard ATX pinout and turns a standard ATX power supply into the
equivalent of a Dell power supply.",

so I'd assume it'll work with any standard PSU.

--
dvus
 
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dvus:
> "This Dell to ATX adapter converts between the non-standard pinout to
> the standard ATX pinout and turns a standard ATX power supply into
> the equivalent of a Dell power supply.",
>
> so I'd assume it'll work with any standard PSU.

Some Dell power supplies are physically backwards from ATX supplies,
meaning ATX won't fit into a Dell case. Supposeably they stopped this 2-3
years ago, my Dell is 3 years old (4550) and the power supply is
backwards.
--
Mac Cool
 
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Mac Cool wrote:
> dvus:

>> "This Dell to ATX adapter converts between the non-standard pinout to
>> the standard ATX pinout and turns a standard ATX power supply into
>> the equivalent of a Dell power supply.",
>>
>> so I'd assume it'll work with any standard PSU.
>
> Some Dell power supplies are physically backwards from ATX supplies,
> meaning ATX won't fit into a Dell case. Supposeably they stopped this
> 2-3 years ago, my Dell is 3 years old (4550) and the power supply is
> backwards.

What do you mean by "backwards"? The line voltage must plug into the "back"
and the output is at the end of power cables. I suppose it could be that the
mounting holes and 120VAC input on a standard PSU don't coincide with those
in the Dell case, but surely that could be remedied.

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I think he means that, if you buy a generic PSU with two fans, the intake
fan would face sheetmetal rather than the CPU/motherboard. The PSU may
overheat without any air intake.

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"dvus" <dven1invalid@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> What do you mean by "backwards"? The line voltage must plug into the
"back"
> and the output is at the end of power cables. I suppose it could be that
the
> mounting holes and 120VAC input on a standard PSU don't coincide with
those
> in the Dell case, but surely that could be remedied.
>
> --
> dvus
>
>
 
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"First of One" <daxinfx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I think he means that, if you buy a generic PSU with two fans, the intake
> fan would face sheetmetal rather than the CPU/motherboard. The PSU may
> overheat without any air intake.

Some do have openings on the back(front?) inside, so if you covered the
bottom fanit would then work -- but you could just get a 1-fan psu with the
fan on the back. Those 2-fan units with an opening on the back/front inside
can blow hot air out it back into the pc and cook the CD unit if the bottom
fan is working.

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