JackNaylorPE :
Car speed is a bad analogy, ... the faster one takes home 1st place price money and the other one doesn't bring home anything. That's a HUGE difference
It's not the greatest analogy, though not for the reasons you're trying to make it out to be. First of all, second place in a professional race actually does take home prize money. Second, two i7's running at the same clock rate, but one is 1 °C warmer, are actually doing the exact same amount of processing work, so there isn't a winner or loser.
JackNaylorPE :
While that doesn't matter philosophy may pass muster in a corporate setting for Dell, for the system builder, the challenge for the self builder is building the best PC one can with their budget.
Yes, many builders do challenge themselves to get the most performance for the least amount of money. As someone who's competed in the SBM, I think I know a thing or three about that. We typically call it performance value. And spending money on something that has near zero effect on actual performance is a net loss in value.
JackNaylorPE :
How popular do ya think that "doesn't matter" approach is in Rio right now ?
So you're saying your overclocking is of international importance and your paycheck is based off a 1 °C difference? Spare us the theatrics and hyperbole.
JackNaylorPE :
And paying more to get less is just silly.
Indeed, quite silly, as I said above.
JackNaylorPE :
The worse TIM is actually 2.5 times worse at its job then the best TIMs and CPU temps can be 50+% greater than the 3C you stated
You best define what you mean by "worse" since that can mean a lot of different factors. Both those links deal with temp deltas. If you want to say the delta can be 2.5 times higher, then that could be true. However, quit with the scare tactics. My goodness, no! I'll have a 50% higher delta than 3 °C? *gasp* That means it'll be an unbearable
4.5 °C higher than if I spent twice as much money on a "better" paste! Woe is me!!!
Knock it off. That first link uses a synthetic hot plate instead of an actual CPU, so the real-world application of those numbers is sketchy. And if you toss out the exotic liquid metal TIMs that the vast majority of people don't use, as well as the commonly recognized bad pastes that no one recommends, your 2.5 factor falls to less than 2.
I also notice you conveniently ignore the conclusion of the second test you linked where they stated that the application and mounting are far more important factors than the TIM (
same as Igor said three years ago ). Not only that, they admit their findings are not without fault.
JackNaylorPE :
"Doesn't matter" can be said about every PC component
Well, you can say that, but it doesn't mean the statement is true.
JackNaylorPE :
why buy 6600k over 6600 ?
Because I have applications that can saturate threads and they'll see a measurably significant performance increase by overclocking.
JackNaylorPE :
Why buy a SSD (boots in 15.6 seconds) over a SSHD (boots in 16.5 seconds) ?
Because it's not just boot speed I'm looking for. Perhaps it's lower power consumption, or I have more commonly used applications than can fit in the limited SSHD cache.
JackNaylorPE :
Why pay an extra $20 for a better cooler if the TIM you choose loses the gains from the better cooler ?
Again, define better. Sometimes you pay extra for brand loyalty. Sometimes you pay for something that fits in your case. Sometimes you pay for lower noise. But really, isn't there already TIM bundled with that cooler you just bought?
JackNaylorPE :
But most of all, why pay a ridiculous almost 5 times as much for $18.88 for MX4, when the superior Shin Etsu costs $3.99 ?
Better question: why spend extra on third party TIM at all instead of using the paste that comes bundled with the cooler you already have? Also, have you checked the price / volume on your beloved Shin Etsu? Biggest complaint in the reviews is how little you get, two applications at most ( y'know, in case the first one doesn't go right? ). Compare that to the GC I bought for my Tom's review work. One ~$10 tube gave me about 10 applications. Same can be said about many other commonly used pastes. Meaning cost / application is half that of Shin Etsu ( going by your prices ) so the overall value is about twice as high from that standpoint.
JackNaylorPE :
So yes, even if you don't care that you didn't do the best you could do
Enough with the thinly veiled insults.
JackNaylorPE :
you should care that you wasted $15
Actually I would care more that I spent money on paste that did nothing for my computer's actual performance.
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