970 vs 1060

[BenBorchers]

Should I opt for the 970 or Wait for the 1060 and which one will be better priced?

 

[Outlander_04]

The 970 is over priced and cant match the performance of AMD's $200 RX 480

So what was your question?

 

[Mousemonkey]

The 970 is over priced and cant match the performance of AMD's $200 RX 480

So what was your question?

Should I opt for the 970 or Wait for the 1060 and which one will be better priced?

That was the question, no mention of the 480 either.

 

[BenBorchers]

The 970 is over priced and cant match the performance of AMD's $200 RX 480

So what was your question?

I already own an intel chip and do not want to buy another cpu ,so please Which one is better?

 

[why_wolf]

GPU is not dependent on if the CPU is AMD or INTEL. Regardless the 970 is overpriced if you are buying it new compared to a RX 480 or GTX 1060. A used 970 is a good price though, looks to be going for under $150 on ebay.

 

[Outlander_04]

The RX480 is an AMD graphics chip. Costs way less than a gtx 970 and performs better.
The gtx 1060 is rumoured to be faster. No one knows.

One thing you can be sure of is that the 970 is not a good deal

 

[Mousemonkey]

The RX480 is an AMD graphics chip. Costs way less than a gtx 970 and performs better.
The gtx 1060 is rumoured to be faster. No one knows.

One thing you can be sure of is that the 970 is not a good deal

What do you mean no one knows? The reviews are out, have a read.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1060-review,1.html

 

[photonboy]

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/24.html

Even if we factor in that some GTX970's overclock well, the GTX1060 is the clear choice. Other reasons include:

1) asynchronous hardware (i.e. dynamic load balancing)
- this helps a little for frame rate when supported in DX12, however it also helps games not STUTTER as much when it's coded for. (by not waiting for certain code to finish or is stopped due to a synchronous pipeline)

Gain is roughly 7% in AotS for example (depending on settings). GTX900 and prior series do not benefit in this situation.

2) VR support much better (up to 1.6X faster relatively)
- so in a VR title it might be 1.2X faster due to DX12, but 1.6X faster again due to the VR plugin so the FPS difference can approach 2X the difference

3) Monitor/encode stuff:
- HDR
- HEVC
- higher bandwidth DP/HDMI

4) more power efficient

5) *VRAM:
This is a big deal. The GTX970 has only 3.5GB of full-speed memory wheres the GTX1060 has 6GB.

Not a huge deal yet, though some titles like GTA5 really benefit and can use up to 6GB. Future proofing of course as titles get more demanding.

 

[Outlander_04]

Ive just read the gtx 1060 review here on tomshardware.
At $300 the 1060 is not great value either, it seems
The $200 RX 480 sometimes out performs it .
And for a person using a 1080p monitor there is no advantage in using the 1060 , because even when the nvidia card wins the AMD RX 480 is already maxing out the 60 HZ refresh rate of a monitor

 

[dudeman509]

Ive just read the gtx 1060 review here on tomshardware.
At $300 the 1060 is not great value either, it seems
The $200 RX 480 sometimes out performs it .
And for a person using a 1080p monitor there is no advantage in using the 1060 , because even when the nvidia card wins the AMD RX 480 is already maxing out the 60 HZ refresh rate of a monitor

There are a few 1060's (well, were, before they instantly sold out) priced around the $250 price point. The $300 is the Founder's Edition, which they recommended against, or vendor "factory OC'ed" cards, which I agree, are not great bang-for-the-buck.

At a $250 price point, it would be a harder choice to make between the 480 and 1060 for me. I'd probably pick the 1060 because the 480 often comes in around $230+ in aftermarket form anyway, and needs the better coolers to really perform well.

 

[Outlander_04]

Ive just read the gtx 1060 review here on tomshardware.
At $300 the 1060 is not great value either, it seems
The $200 RX 480 sometimes out performs it .
And for a person using a 1080p monitor there is no advantage in using the 1060 , because even when the nvidia card wins the AMD RX 480 is already maxing out the 60 HZ refresh rate of a monitor

There are a few 1060's (well, were, before they instantly sold out) priced around the $250 price point. The $300 is the Founder's Edition, which they recommended against, or vendor "factory OC'ed" cards, which I agree, are not great bang-for-the-buck.

At a $250 price point, it would be a harder choice to make between the 480 and 1060 for me. I'd probably pick the 1060 because the 480 often comes in around $230+ in aftermarket form anyway, and needs the better coolers to really perform well.

Yes , it will depend on where prices settle .

 

[Mousemonkey]

Ben I'm unsure why moose monkey wont address you directly but it seems like he has provided an answer of sorts. Unless the gtx 970 is way cheaper than $300 it is terrible value.

Watch your tone, insulting Mods does not go down well and you're posting on borrowed time as it is.

 

[profoundnoah]

Erm, a little tension going on here I guess. But either way, the 1060 will be priced around the same as a used 970. Since I generally don't like getting used hardware, the 1060 will be new and will definitely perform better than a 970 for a better price.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Erm, a little tension going on here I guess. But either way, the 1060 will be priced around the same as a used 970. Since I generally don't like getting used hardware, the 1060 will be new and will definitely perform better than a 970 for a better price.

Yes it will but with no SLi support, which is a bit of a downer IMHO.

 

[profoundnoah]

Erm, a little tension going on here I guess. But either way, the 1060 will be priced around the same as a used 970. Since I generally don't like getting used hardware, the 1060 will be new and will definitely perform better than a 970 for a better price.

Yes it will but with no SLi support, which is a bit of a downer IMHO.

Definitely agreed there. I really wish to see a custom 1060 that features SLI like maybe something from EVGA. But a 1060 is still a 1060 nonetheless.

 

[RedJaron]

I don't think the absence of SLI on the 1060 is a big deal. SLI on the 3GB version doesn't make sense; you'd need the pricier 6GB versions. That means you're spending what, $600 on graphics? Would SLI 1060s match a single 1080? We don't know for certain since you can't SLI them, but I don't think it would.

A second 1060 would help in 1440p, but I don't think it'd be enough for high-end 4K performance. So if all the second 1060 gets you is better 1440p performance, there are cheaper and simpler ways to accomplish that, namely a single 1070 or 1080.

 

[Mousemonkey]

There was a link posted in the Pascal thread of "SLi'd" 1060's using DX12's multi GPU and they outperformed a 1080.

 

[GunnyNinja]

The 970 is over priced and cant match the performance of AMD's $200 RX 480

So what was your question?

The 970 was never supposed to compete with the 480. It competes with the 390, so what's your point? That newer cards are better? Next time, answer the question that was asked.