Build Advice 9950x3d vs 9800x3d and 5070ti?(plus new x3d and super cards)

[FreeBee101]

I just switched over to a 9950x3d build concept for a new PC as the price was only 700 compared to a potential 900 dollar 5070ti. Is everything in this system sufficient. Is it bad to have only a 750w psu? How much overhead do you want on a PSU?

Is it worth using a 9950x3d with a 5070ti. I know I can't afford a bigger card than this. Unless I use a 5080 with a 9800x3d. I'm waiting to see if more x3d cpu's come out and what the new super cards produce along with price drops.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aital/saved/WK2prH

And will that case and the cheaper fans be enough for that build? Can that AIO cover either the 9950x3d or the 9800x3d?

And is the board sufficient for components. Do Eatx or other boards come with more PCIE lanes. I'm not sure if that would be needed.

Is this stupid if I only have a 1080p monitor. I don't know if I would upgrade later or not.

 

[Lutfij]

Looks like you're going for a mostly Phanteks build, nothing wrong with that. I would avoid ASRock motherboard's in favor of MSI or Gigabyte.

Is everything in this system sufficient. Is it bad to have only a 750w psu? And is the board sufficient for components.
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And will that case and the cheaper fans be enough for that build? Can that AIO cover either the 9950x3d or the 9800x3d?
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[FreeBee101]

I'm not sure what the system will be used for. Probably gaming first. and daily driver. I'm assuming this might be overkill. The only other reason to get this is to have a good long lasting system that won't need to be upgraded for 10 years. Or just in case I want to use it for other things.

The price of the GPU's just throws me off though. They are so pricey atm that It seems a waiste not to get a bigger CPU.

I'm upgrading from a DDR3 system. So, I'm a bit behind the times. I have a phenom 1100t I got dirt cheap. So, I'm not sure if I will miss having a lower end chip. Although I might like the lower TDP because the room I'm in gets hot.

I'm currently on 1080p. But if the 49inch monitors from samsung are cheaper I could upgrade my monitor to a 1440 or something. Assuming that can handle it.

***I'm thinking of trying to learn to make an isometric video game. I'm not sure what that would require yet. I'm just starting to learn. I'm not even sure what it would be intensive in. It would be like an RTS with potential for genre mixing into infantry and other combat. I might try to make it very realistic for game play mechanics. Although I'm not sure what that would entail. At worst it would be gamey with realistic balance potentially. Or at least aiming in that direction possibly. I'm assuming if I knew anything I would already know what to aim for! ><

Potentially with large pseudo realistic maps with relatively low scaling down. Although I would have to figure out more specifics.

 

[Why_Me]

I'm not sure what the system will be used for. Probably gaming first. and daily driver. I'm assuming this might be overkill. The only other reason to get this is to have a good long lasting system that won't need to be upgraded for 10 years. Or just in case I want to use it for other things.

The price of the GPU's just throws me off though. They are so pricey atm that It seems a waiste not to get a bigger CPU.

I'm upgrading from a DDR3 system. So, I'm a bit behind the times. I have a phenom 1100t I got dirt cheap. So, I'm not sure if I will miss having a lower end chip. Although I might like the lower TDP because the room I'm in gets hot.

I'm currently on 1080p. But if the 49inch monitors from samsung are cheaper I could upgrade my monitor to a 1440 or something. Assuming that can handle it.

***I'm thinking of trying to learn to make an isometric video game. I'm not sure what that would require yet. I'm just starting to learn. I'm not even sure what it would be intensive in. It would be like an RTS with potential for genre mixing into infantry and other combat. I might try to make it very realistic for game play mechanics. Although I'm not sure what that would entail. At worst it would be gamey with realistic balance potentially. Or at least aiming in that direction possibly. I'm assuming if I knew anything I would already know what to aim for! ><

Potentially with large pseudo realistic maps with relatively low scaling down. Although I would have to figure out more specifics.

Size up on your psu, look for an SSD with DRAM cache and drop your resolution to 1440 so that you maintain decent frame rates.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($451.50 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro A-RGB 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($217.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance RGB 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ MSI)
Video Card: *Zotac SOLID SFF OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($829.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks EVOLV X2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($176.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *ASRock Steel Legend SL-850G 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Phanteks M25G2-120 D-RGB Reverse 73.69 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: *Samsung Odyssey G65B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor ($378.05 @ Amazon)
Total: $2595.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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[Why_Me]

Monitor with IPS panel.

https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aqml1a/

PCPartPicker Part List

Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQML1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 260 Hz Monitor ($279.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $279.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[FreeBee101]

If a 5070ti super comes out would it likely be able to run the dual 1440 samsung monitor at max natively? it's supposed to be 24gb vram potentially.

And does the mobo need a certain level of vrm support on the mobo for that?

 

[Why_Me]

If a 5070ti super comes out would it likely be able to run the dual 1440 samsung monitor at max natively? it's supposed to be 24gb vram potentially.

And does the mobo need a certain level of vrm support on the mobo for that?

The current 5070 Ti will do fine with dual 1440 monitors. Look for a board with either a 12 or 14 power phase design.

 

[helper800]

Something like this is what I would want for a white build, if you are interested.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor ($647.25 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($43.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard ($237.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK Hynix Platinum P41 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($211.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($789.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow (2024) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Focus GX V4 ATX 3 (2024) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($168.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gigabyte MO34WQC2 34.0" 3440 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3262.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Vertical mount option but requires an AIO install:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor ($647.25 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Grand Vision ARGB 69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.19 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard ($237.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK Hynix Platinum P41 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($211.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($789.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow (2024) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Focus GX V4 ATX 3 (2024) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($168.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gigabyte MO34WQC2 34.0" 3440 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Custom: NZXT Vertical GPU Mounting Kit - AB-RH175-W1-175 mm PCIe 4.0x16 Riser Cable - GPU Holder - Sturdy Steel Bracket - White ($56.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $3354.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[FreeBee101]

Is there a recomended ammount of ram that is good. I was thinking 48 or 96. If i get a 5070ti super it will be 24 vram and 48 system ram. Does it help at anything if the system ram is a multiple of the vram. I'm assuming not. if anything for my ocd. Or does any software utilize the modules in that way in windows linux or other OSes?

In fact is there a ram module size that is ideal for some reason atm. Like 16/24/32/48 per stick? if I had no restrictions I would get 192 gb in 48gb modules.

I'm assuming I only want two sticks if running at 6000mhz and 10ns. Or can you run that with 4 sticks now? I wouldn't mind starting with 96gb(2x48). In fact absolutley ideally I would run 192gb(4x48) at 12000mhz (1:1) at 10 ns. I wonder if this will exist when Ryzen 6 comes out.

Does it matter if the default amount is 6000mhz and 10ns when buying to ram for automating the ram instalation. I think something said you want that for xmp setting and running 1:1.

 

[helper800]

Is there a recomended ammount of ram that is good. I was thinking 48 or 96. If i get a 5070ti super it will be 24 vram and 48 system ram. Does it help at anything if the system ram is a multiple of the vram. I'm assuming not. if anything for my ocd. Or does any software utilize the modules in that way in windows linux or other OSes?

In fact is there a ram module size that is ideal for some reason atm. Like 16/24/32/48 per stick? if I had no restrictions I would get 192 gb in 48gb modules.

I'm assuming I only want two sticks if running at 6000mhz and 10ns. Or can you run that with 4 sticks now? I wouldn't mind starting with 96gb(2x48). In fact absolutley ideally I would run 192gb(4x48) at 12000mhz (1:1) at 10 ns. I wonder if this will exist when Ryzen 6 comes out.

Does it matter if the default amount is 6000mhz and 10ns when buying to ram for automating the ram instalation. I think something said you want that for xmp setting and running 1:1.

You want 48gb+ of RAM for long term and CL30 or lower for the first timing at 6000-6400 MT/s speeds. You get as much RAM as you forsee yourself using at the latest point of use for the PC in its lifetime, IMO. You want to stick to two sticks of RAM for less stress on the IMC of the CPU. you want and EXPO kit that is at the above speeds/latencies.

 

[JayGau]

You shouldn't go with Dominator. They are overpriced. You could have 64 GB with same timing for cheaper if you rather get a regular Vengeance expo kit.

 

[FreeBee101]

I was looking at some systems with them in it and thye don't really fit the look. I know I want 6000mhz/10ns. Not sure which ones look the best. I also upped the psu to a 1000w, but it's 330 dollars and put me over the 3600 dollars I was looking for.

I think I want to do the ram in chunks of 24 or 48. it's stupid, But I want the 24gb 5070ti to theme it. Then If i can get the 10950x3d for zen 6 and 48gb of ram I think I will be set. Hopefully allowing the system to drop in price more. I'm weird about making the system match.

The only other change I would make is if 12000hmz ram came out with zen 6.

Does it matter if I go with 1 or 2 rank ram?

 

[helper800]

I was looking at some systems with them in it and thye don't really fit the look. I know I want 6000mhz/10ns. Not sure which ones look the best. I also upped the psu to a 1000w, but it's 330 dollars and put me over the 3600 dollars I was looking for.

I think I want to do the ram in chunks of 24 or 48. it's stupid, But I want the 24gb 5070ti to theme it. Then If i can get the 10950x3d for zen 6 and 48gb of ram I think I will be set. Hopefully allowing the system to drop in price more. I'm weird about making the system match.

The only other change I would make is if 12000hmz ram came out with zen 6.

Does it matter if I go with 1 or 2 rank ram?

Go with two rank RAM if you use two sticks, single rank if 4 sticks.

Do you like white and the Gigabyte brand? They have most core components if you also want branding to be similarish:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor ($649.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Gigabyte AORUS WATERFORCE II 360 ICE 64.95 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard ($329.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS Gen5 14000 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($166.45 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($211.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte AERO OC GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($979.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H6 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.97 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($131.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Gigabyte MO34WQC2 34.0" 3440 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3679.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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