A Bit of a problem

[HeavyB3]

I decided to upgrade my old Athlon XP 2000 Processor to a Athlon XP 2500 with the 333fsb and the Barton Core... However, When I put the FSB in my bios to 166 it starts up, runs for about a minute and then it shuts down. The chip didn't go or anything because I am using the computer now, only with the FSB set at 133.

System Info
Athlon XP 2500 Barton
MSI 6380 v 1.0 board with 333 FSB support
Geforce 4 Ti 4400
WD 80gb 7200 RPM hd
Sound Blaster Audigy Card
LiteOn 32x burner

 

[HeavyB3]

Continued... Ok so I set the FSB to 163 and I thought I had something. It didn't crash like 1 min after boot, however i went to do some benchmarks on my PC.. to see exactly how much faster the processor is and as soon as the benchmarks got going.. boom power down. I forgot to mention my memory type. Its the Crucial 512 DDR 2700 Platinum series with the heat dissapation stuff.

 

[JimmyDean]

Probably a heat problem. I have a 2000+ on an MS-6570 ILSR and i could only run it at 100fsb with many problems. Turns out the heatsink was on backwards... Make absolutely sure its not overheating

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[Robert522]

I was using a similar AMD system config and I had the same problem. It turned out that I didnt have enough power to support all my devices. If your power supply looks a bit crapy you might wanna try using an ANtec power supply. I got a dual fan 400W one and it kicks ass!

 

[HeavyB3]

I have an Antec True Power 430 watt power supply so i don't think thats ther problem. Any other suggestions?
Oh and the CPU temperature is 50C at full load, system temp 35<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by HeavyB3 on 06/25/03 04:06 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[ChipDeath]

You say 50C full load - is this with it running at 133FSB?
That's pretty damn hot for an underclocked Barton core. What HSF are you using?

What thermal interface material did you use when installing the HSF? (Arctic Silver/thermal pad that came on the HSF/etc)

Also, how are you measuring that temperature?


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[HeavyB3]

I am using the Aerol 7 heatsink by Coolermaster and Artic Silver thermal paste. Its alot cooler than my old Athlon XP 2000 used to run (60-65) So this is alot better I suppose. I measure the temperature in the Bios. I have the latest bios version from MSI so I don't know why it just shuts off in 166 FSB.

 

[ChipDeath]

You can't get an accurate reading by using the BIOS, as it has some time to cool down while you restart and go into it. You're a lot better off using something like Motherboard monitor 5 to keep track of your temps.

I built a system for a friend last week, based on an ePox 8RDA+ Nforce2 motherboard, and an XP1800+ (t-bred 'b' core) - and that is using a Coolermaster Aero7+. I think it just about hits 50C under load, and it's overclocked to about 2.07Ghz (180x11.5).

If you look in your BIOS, what's your VCore set at. it shouldn't be any higher than 1.6V..

Aside from that, I would remove the HSF, thouroughly clean off the cpu die and the HSF (I hear rubbing alcohol is good for this) and stick it back on, with a REALLY THIN layer of arctic Silver on the cpu die, taking care not to smear the silver around while installing it, then boot it up and see....

HTH



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[slvr_phoenix]

Just out of curiosity, what kind of airflow do you have in your case?

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[ChipDeath]

I was wondering about that, but he says it only lasts a minute before dying - sounds too quick to be lack of airflow to me. that said, I guess it wouldn't exactly help either....

Also reminds me I need to get a case fan for that friends system...

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[ChipDeath]

**Stop press...**
that MSI motherboard uses the VIA KT333 Chipset. unfortunately for you, this chipset does <i><b>not</i></b> support 166FSB processors, only DDR333 RAM, running asynchronously [sp?] with the CPU FSB.

You need a new motherboard, basically. buy an Nforce2 motherboard instead, or RMA the chip and buy an XP2600+ 133FSB chip, if you can find one.

Sorry if we've been messing you around... :redface:

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[slvr_phoenix]

Damn. That's usually the <i>first</i> thing that I do in these situations, is look up what chipset the motherboard is running to see if that could be a problem. I don't know why I didn't this time. Congrats on a good call ChipDeath.

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