A short story of water cooling Update with bench marks

[baddad]

This is a report taken from my Everest program at idle.
CPU 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 20 °C (68 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 22 °C (72 °F)
GPU1: GPU 39 °C (102 °F)
GPU1: GPU Diode 40 °C (104 °F)
GPU1: GPU Memory 39 °C (102 °F)
GPU1: GPU Ambient 34 °C (93 °F)
GPU2: GPU 31 °C (88 °F)
GPU2: GPU Diode 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU2: GPU Memory 31 °C (88 °F)
GPU2: GPU Ambient 31 °C (88 °F)
Under load playing Crysis.
Temperatures:
Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F)
CPU 30 °C (86 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 25 °C (77 °F)
GPU1: GPU 44 °C (111 °F)
GPU1: GPU Diode 44 °C (111 °F)
GPU1: GPU Memory 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU1: GPU Ambient 39 °C (102 °F)
GPU2: GPU 36 °C (97 °F)
GPU2: GPU Diode 49 °C (120 °F)
GPU2: GPU Memory 36 °C (97 °F)
GPU2: GPU Ambient 36 °C (97 °F)

I will also be going to triple SLI soon and will have pictures and temps to follow.

 

[Hatman]

Its an interesting topic.


Atm im going to put a triple rad in the bottom my stacker830 case and exhaust the air by using a metal plate im planning to insert at an angle and putting the bottom 2 door fans on exhaust, mine has an air vent at the bottom apaprantly some dont have that??? Im going to fit some dust filters on that and use some little sticky pads to raise the rad about a cm off the floor of the case to get some better ventilation, then I'll use the fans to pull the air thru the rad and hopefully get some nice air flow going with the 2 exhaust ones.


Then at the top of the case it'll be the front fan on intake and 2 side ones on intake to prove air to my thermalright motherboard cooling and the top one and back one on exhaust to get some decent air flow there too.


When I see them on one of my regular shops im replacing my 50CFM rad ones with 68CFM blue led xilence fans and also adding one of those to the back to exhaust a bit more air to balance things out.


All other fans are blue led 40cfm cm fans with the ones on the rad and front fan being 50cfm hiperflow fans.

Although will be making 2 front fans CM Blue LED 40cfm fans as soon as I find out how to install 2 at the top. Can't put them at bottom since I will have 2 mount the HD cage higher to accomodate the triple rad.


If any1 is wondering why im using low cfm fans, its because of silence pretty much all my stuff is under 22DBA, wont be any increase under idle or load itll just be gd. Also incase you havent guessed im going for a completly internal water cooling system. I think once it is done and I add some UV lights etc itll look pretty kl.

Using a stealthxstream 600watt PSU by OCZ its basically silent so its all gd, if its not quiet enough though Ill buy one of the new zalman ones with heatpipes.

As for the actual system I got a Dtek fuzion with the nozel thing and an EK 8800GT acetal block, for some nice overclocks. I also have a zalman SB passive cooler and am using 2x Utype thermalright mosfet coolers with a passive hr-05 cooler on the NB, all the passive stuff will be fine with the good airflow nothing is high enough to stop it so badly so it should be great!

 

[baddad]

Just need one more GTX which will be here this week and I'll have water cooled triple GTX's.

 

[Groveling_Wyrm]

LOL...3 GTX's.....insane!!! You gotta post back with temps and performance benches when you get it installed and things settle down!

 

[Hatman]

Really the quicker the water passes through them the better if you have all linked together.

If it passes thru quicker the water absorbes less heat per amount of water and therfor will carry less heat tot he rest of the gpu's.


mmmm I wonder if a triple rad will be enough..?

 

[Groveling_Wyrm]

A good triple rad should do it. Something like AT LEAST a Swiftech MCR-320 or better still, a Thermochill PA 120.3 could do the job quite nicely.

 

[bildo123]

Just use some non-conductive water and put it in a tub.

 

[baddad]

Now up and running on triple cooled GTX Pic's and test results by tomorrow.

 

[Hatman]

Cant wait too see it 😀

 

[baddad]

The evening before I started getting ready for the new GTX by first draining the inter loop using a female connected to a hose into a mug and the other to let the water drain and then I blew the rest out.

Then I disconnected the transfer pipe between the two cards.

Next I moved the second card up and connected it to the first with a single slot pipe.

These are the different SLI connectors.

The new card arrived today and I got it ready to install the Koolance Block which by the way I didn't have to shave the standoffs as I did with the first two, so they have fix that problem.

The last step Install the card And add water.

 

[Hatman]

Pretty neat, benches 😀


Kinda shame you have a dual core too 🙁

 

[Groveling_Wyrm]

*cough* BENCHES!!!! *cough*

/taps foot impatiently.....

We're STILL waiting.....

LOL!!! That is insane! Gotta play havoc with your cooling loop! WOW!




Edit: typo...

 

[baddad]

LOL!!! That is instane! Gotta play havoc with your cooling loop! WOW!

Actually it doesn't, overall it runs about 4 degrees C warmer then before.

 

[GizmoSLI]

BadDad....

your post gave me hope! I have the exos2 and I have been reading all the posts of how bad the exos2 is.....

I have the 780i evga with 3 8800GTXs MSI, and I am planning to do the same setup you have, I hope I will not face the stands problem with the MSI card.

would you please send me the links of the valves that you use to connect the 3 GTXs blocks in the tri sli setup, this looks pretty neat and I was planning to use tubes to connect them.

my plane for the exos 2 is only to cool the gtxs, I have infinity for the e6850, and I use 3d Aurora case, will change the case fans with scythe fans to get better flow.

Thanks so much....

 

[baddad]

BadDad....

your post gave me hope! I have the exos2 and I have been reading all the posts of how bad the exos2 is.....

I have the 780i evga with 3 8800GTXs MSI, and I am planning to do the same setup you have, I hope I will not face the stands problem with the MSI card.

would you please send me the links of the valves that you use to connect the 3 GTXs blocks in the tri sli setup, this looks pretty neat and I was planning to use tubes to connect them.

my plane for the exos 2 is only to cool the gtxs, I have infinity for the e6850, and I use 3d Aurora case, will change the case fans with scythe fans to get better flow.

Thanks so much....

If you are worried, just use the white paste that comes with the water blocks to make sure by sreading it on the GPU and then mating them together when it transfers you will know it's ok. Use AC5 or some other silver paste instead of that white stuff when you finally put the blocks on the cards. here's the link you wanted.
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?cPath=62_63&products_id=400

 

[neisonator]

far out that looks awesome i just wish the put 2 sli connectors on the g92 gts's 🙁 have you noticed a decent performance boost?

 

[Groveling_Wyrm]

LOL!!! That is instane! Gotta play havoc with your cooling loop! WOW!

Actually it doesn't, overall it runs about 4 degrees C warmer then before.

Er....I guess I wasn't clear enough....I was meaning for your flow rates....sorry. 😗

 

[Hatman]

Any benches? 😀

 

[baddad]

Well all the parts arrived on schedule and I was ready to put everything in the new case because the day before yesterday I removed it all from the Armor case. I then switch my main machine mid tower to the Armor full tower and will use the old mid tower to build a system for sale with some of the left over parts I’ve accumulated.

Side views

Note the red O-Ring on the single slot pipe connector.

Putting parts in on the removable tray and the tray ready for install back in the case.

Tool less drive tray.

Setting up new water system.

Purging the water system with the new 1000w PSU install.

Making quick disconnect plug wiring for external fans.

I haven't had time yet to do any test but will let you know when I do.

 

[Hatman]

lol it looks pretty cool.

 

[baddad]

Well I got a chance to play Crysis yesterday and I was saying to myself this is even slower then before running at 17 to 20 fps in very high setting although it seemed to be running smoothly. Then I realized that I had just updated my NVIDIA drive to 169.28 to go along with the Crysis 1.1 patch and forgot to turn on SLI so I was only running on one card. After I turned on SLI I was getting 35 to 50 fps indoors and 25 to 45 outside averaging 30 fps. Remember these are just stock GTX's so the Ultra's must be working really well.

 

[Hatman]

What settings are you using? Id imagine youd want to use AA with this setup. Jaggies ruin crysis.

 

[baddad]

Very High Settings, I haven't tried AA yet.

 

[WestWarrior]

LOL!!! That is instane! Gotta play havoc with your cooling loop! WOW!

Actually it doesn't, overall it runs about 4 degrees C warmer then before.

Im sorry to say, but I just dont believe that. Unless there is a Rad or something that I dont see, as far as I can tell, you have one rad w/ 2 120mm fans. There is just no way that little radiator is removing that much heat. I think i read somewhere that a single GTX can produce over 250Watts, so 3 GTXs would be producing well over 750Watts. Not to mention the Dual Core that is putting off probably around 125+watts. Also, if you ever have any of the waterblocks apart, take caution not to make any scratches on the internals, as it could ruin your loop in the long run. Next question, what are your temps, and where are you getting them from? You have a very nice rig, and I just want to make sure that you dont cook it with an inadequate WC system.

Also, It may seem off topic, but I was readin this, and couldnt pass up the chance to comment.

Annisman,

Go smoke another bowl, and keep yourself happy. Cause unlike your cooler a good water cooling rig directly removes the heat out of the case, and in doing so helps other components stay cool too. Like your boards mosfets and northbridge. That is cause the heat is removed from the case by the coolant mixture and then exhausted at the radiator. Plus with water you can OC even higher than with air. This is because water can remove heat better than air can. So even if you say that BadDad's temps are worse than yours think out how much he has OC'd his cards before you try to brag.

-ouch1

BTW I am willing to bet that BadDad's rig is much quieter than yours since you need to move alot alot more air to cool your system than he does.

Actually the cooler mentioned (properly used), exhausts heat directly from the case as well, giving it all of those other benefits that you mentioned (Although a few degrees will make little difference on a NB and NO difference with Mosfets). Also, a high-end air setup can get MUCH better OCs than entry level WC setups, like the one used here. Also, the water in a WC system doesnt remove heat. Also, I havent seen any evidence to support that BadDad has begun to OC. Baddads system might be quieter, but in the world of performance, that doesnt really matter.

 

[baddad]

Im sorry to say, but I just dont believe that. Unless there is a Rad or something that I dont see, as far as I can tell, you have one rad w/ 2 120mm fans. There is just no way that little radiator is removing that much heat. I think i read somewhere that a single GTX can produce over 250Watts, so 3 GTXs would be producing well over 750Watts. Not to mention the Dual Core that is putting off probably around 125+watts. Also, if you ever have any of the waterblocks apart, take caution not to make any scratches on the internals, as it could ruin your loop in the long run. Next question, what are your temps, and where are you getting them from? You have a very nice rig, and I just want to make sure that you dont cook it with an inadequate WC system.

Also, It may seem off topic, but I was readin this, and couldnt pass up the chance to comment.



Actually the cooler mentioned (properly used), exhausts heat directly from the case as well, giving it all of those other benefits that you mentioned (Although a few degrees will make little difference on a NB and NO difference with Mosfets). Also, a high-end air setup can get MUCH better OCs than entry level WC setups, like the one used here. Also, the water in a WC system doesnt remove heat. Also, I havent seen any evidence to support that BadDad has begun to OC. Baddads system might be quieter, but in the world of performance, that doesnt really matter.

Stock GTX’s put out 176W’s and the 6850 is 65W design which comes out to be 593W’s, the Koolance cooler I had on the machine was designed for the removal of 700W’s. If you look I have a new water cooling system which is design to remove 1000W’s of heat. And as you said I have not begun to OC anything right now. I monitor the system with RivaTuner and this program http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=3&ps=UE&lang=en which tells you everything about your system.