[SOLVED] Adding 8GB ram stick of same speed of my old ram and diffrent brands is causing me Random BlueScreens

[AnxiousBeat]

Hello,
So, 4 days ago, i bought a Leven 8Gb DDR3 1600 MHz to my pc, and added it to my (2x4)Gb Avexir blitz series DDR3 1600 MHz that i had for a while now, and ever since i have being having games closing at random times or Random bluescreens
i removed the new ram and tried, then removed the old ram and added the new one alone, and in both cases i had no issue
theoretically the rams should be fully compatible, but i dont understand why am i having this issue, is it some settings that i should tune in the bios ?
this is my old ram: http://www.avexir.com/product/blitzspec-ddr3.html
this is the new ram: https://exe.ua/en/product/p275752/
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir and 1x8gb stick LEVEN)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one


Thanks in advance

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Can you?
you already have the answer. it causing bsod

i mean, is there BIOS tweaks that i can make to make them match timing or something ?

 

[Zerk2012]

nvm the links i sent are wrong, the old ram is CL9 and the new one is CL11, is their a way to make them work togetger ?

That's what I said a few posts ago.

So you have normal memory and low quality memory.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

That's what I said a few posts ago.

So you have normal memory and low quality memory.

should i underclock the CL9 one to CL11 ?

 

[Zerk2012]

You can try raising the voltage to 1.55 since it almost works. If that don't work go to 1.58

If it still crashes than set your timings to
11-11-11-28

 

[USAFRet]

should i underclock the CL9 one to CL11 ?

You should sell what you already have, and buy a single set of 16GB....2x 8GB.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

You can try raising the voltage to 1.55 since it almost works. If that don't work go to 1.58

If it still crashes than set your timings to
11-11-11-28

that wont burn the memory right ? since it's rated at 1.5V
also, should i be using XMP or not ?

 

[rgd1101]

you have a locked motherboard and cpu

 

[Zerk2012]

that wont burn the memory right ? since it's rated at 1.5V
also, should i be using XMP or not ?

The memory will be fine you should be able to leave it just like it is and up the voltage.

EDIT on my 4790K DDR3 build I had the memory overclocked to 2400 @1.58 volts.
Your not going to hurt the memory till you get over 1.6 area and probably not then.

 

[Zerk2012]

you have a locked motherboard and cpu

I don't think the board is locked of memory voltage or adjustments.

EDIT same post.

[SOLVED] - Adding 8GB ram stick of same speed of my old ram and diffrent brands is causing me Random BlueScreens

Hello, So, 4 days ago, i bought a Leven 8Gb DDR3 1600 MHz to my pc, and added it to my (2x4)Gb Avexir blitz series DDR3 1600 MHz that i had for a while now, and ever since i have being having games closing at random times or Random bluescreens i removed the new ram and tried, then removed the...

forums.tomshardware.com

I think everything I said was spot on of course their a chance it still will not work but Tradsman taught me well.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

The memory will be fine you should be able to leave it just like it is and up the voltage.

EDIT on my 4790K DDR3 build I had the memory overclocked to 2400 @1.58 volts.
Your not going to hurt the memory till you get over 1.6 area and probably not then.

Will it be stable longterm tho ? also is the CL9 one running at 1.55V too safe ?

 

[Zerk2012]

Will it be stable tho ? also is the CL9 one running at 1.55V too safe ?

Try it you have nothing to loose as of now it's not working.
Your best bet would of been buying another set of what you already have or selling your memory and buying a 2X8GB set DDR3 is more forgiving than the new DDR4.

Most of the time you can make it work but not always.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Try it you have nothing to loose as of now it's not working.
Your best bet would of been buying another set of what you already have or selling your memory and buying a 2X8GB set DDR3 is more forgiving than the new DDR4.

Most of the time you can make it work but not always.

just a question, is the difference between CL9 and CL11 noticable in games ?

 

[Zerk2012]

just a question, is the difference between CL9 and CL11 noticable in games ?

Not massive but some yes.

 

[SamirD]

These are my current bios settings


https://ibb.co/bJS13Gd
https://ibb.co/hdyC9tb
https://ibb.co/870Xwfy

Thank you for this. I wouldn't mess with voltage at all. Your newer module as looser timings than your old one so it won't work at 9-9-9-24-2 and the secondary timings are even tighter than the primary so that won't help.

There should be a sticker on the new module that has something like 11-11-11-18-something on it. Set your primary timings to that. Or if it doesn't have that sticker, change all the 9s in your primary timings to 11. That should at least do it and then we can dial it in from there.

 

[Mr.Spock]

yes adjust the timings manually, trial and error - you'll probably need to dial down to CL11 to start.
CPU-Z may give you some idea of the SPD values....

nvm the links i sent are wrong, the old ram is CL9 and the new one is CL11, is their a way to make them work togetger ?

 

[SpeedPc13YearsOldBuilder]

Hello,
So, 4 days ago, i bought a Leven 8Gb DDR3 1600 MHz to my pc, and added it to my (2x4)Gb Avexir blitz series DDR3 1600 MHz that i had for a while now, and ever since i have being having games closing at random times or Random bluescreens
i removed the new ram and tried, then removed the old ram and added the new one alone, and in both cases i had no issue
theoretically the rams should be fully compatible, but i dont understand why am i having this issue, is it some settings that i should tune in the bios ?
this is my old ram: http://www.avexir.com/product/blitzspec-ddr3.html
this is the new ram: https://exe.ua/en/product/p275752/
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir and 1x8gb stick LEVEN)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one


Thanks in advance

I use a random brand 6 year old ram and a new ddr3 GSkill Ripjaws and both of this work it just took a bit of time to work on it

 

[P3C]

Moderator Merged Thread

Basically, i have made the big mistake of buying two rams of matching frequencies, but didnt pay attention to clock timings since i wasnt that knowledged about them when i made the purchase
running them together has being causing me some BlueScreens while gaming
after further researche and realizing that they have diffrent speeds, my main question right now became whether or not im able to somehow make them run at the same timings without issue?
refunding them isnt an option in my country so they either work or i have a dead ram at my disposal
this is what CPU-Z shows:
https://ibb.co/tz5VRpG
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir CL9 and 1x8gb stick LEVEN CL11)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one
these are my BIOS settings currently :

https://ibb.co/bJS13Gd
https://ibb.co/hdyC9tb
https://ibb.co/870Xwfy

Try changing your timings to match the new 8gb ram stick,
such as cl 11-11-11-28. or to be safer, something like cl 12-12-12-30 or 13-13-13-33 or 14-14-14-36 should be safer.
You can also try changing the frequency to 1333 mhz, for even more stability.

im sorry my understand in desktops isnt that deep , is this related to downclocking them ?

Note:Older CPUs tend to have a lower performance impact, especially in gaming with a bit lower memory speeds Newer CPUS such as Ryzen have a big improvement.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Thanks for the help everyone
changing my timings to 11-11-11-28 in bios fixed my issue!
and no i didnt try raising the voltages to make the slower ram run at CL9 since, it might cause stability issues in the long term, and according to people, the performance difference is like 2% or so

 

[P3C]

Moderator Merged Thread

Basically, i have made the big mistake of buying two rams of matching frequencies, but didnt pay attention to clock timings since i wasnt that knowledged about them when i made the purchase
running them together has being causing me some BlueScreens while gaming
after further researche and realizing that they have diffrent speeds, my main question right now became whether or not im able to somehow make them run at the same timings without issue?
refunding them isnt an option in my country so they either work or i have a dead ram at my disposal
this is what CPU-Z shows:
https://ibb.co/tz5VRpG
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir CL9 and 1x8gb stick LEVEN CL11)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one
these are my BIOS settings currently :

https://ibb.co/bJS13Gd
https://ibb.co/hdyC9tb
https://ibb.co/870Xwfy

Also, in the website about the """2x4gb Corsair avexir CL9"'", it showed that it is "CL11" instead of "CL9"

Maybe putting the new stick in caused all of them to be cl9? I am not sure.

 

[SamirD]

Thanks for the help everyone
changing my timings to 11-11-11-28 in bios fixed my issue!
and no i didnt try raising the voltages to make the slower ram run at CL9 since, it might cause stability issues in the long term, and according to people, the performance difference is like 2% or so

You're welcome. I knew the timing would probably fix the issue. Just be sure to run a memtest overnight with everything installed to make sure for sure.