Advice on upgrading for gaming and streaming

[Shaun Jones]

Ok so until recently I've been gaming and streaming on 720p60 but a few new games are starting to test it's limits, for instance I can run black ops 4 pretty well on high settings but the minute I stream I get spikes and drops constantly even on low and i'm assuming that is because it's throttling my CPU (at a guess)

So open to upgrading what is necessary to help and future proof a little, im assuming atleast the mobo because it doesnt take socket LGA1151 and im guessing my best step forward would be that direction for the CPU?

Again i'm here because I really don't know if I know enough haha and alot of guessing leads to mistakes.

System
Inno3d Geforce GTX 1060 3Gb X2 GPU
4x4gb Vengeance LP™ Memory 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 (timings are 9-9-9-24)
Asrock Z87 Extreme3 motherboard
i5-4670k (overclocked to 4.0hz)
RM1000 corsair PSU
212 evo cooler
Sandisk SSD Plus 480GB SATA III 2.5inch SSD
Western Digital Blue 2TB HDD

Hoping to only spend around £300 if possible but willing to consider a little more

Thanks in advance.

 

[Doctor Rob]

IF you are into gaming and streaming and don't care about costs a GOOD CPU would be the new intel i9 CPUs OR (I have 1 system with the AMD Threadripper 1950X and its great).. I would though get the new Threadripper if I built another system with that need.

 

[Shaun Jones]

IF you are into gaming and streaming and don't care about costs a GOOD CPU would be the new intel i9 CPUs OR (I have 1 system with the AMD Threadripper 1950X and its great).. I would though get the new Threadripper if I built another system with that need.

Hoping to only spend around £300 on the CPU and MOBO if both are necessary, a little more maybe if I should think about replacing the ram

 

[greentractor202]

I would upgrade CPU to an i7 9th gen processor and get a DDR4 memory kit and a MOBO that is compatible.

 

[ElectrO_90]

IF you are into gaming and streaming and don't care about costs a GOOD CPU would be the new intel i9 CPUs OR (I have 1 system with the AMD Threadripper 1950X and its great).. I would though get the new Threadripper if I built another system with that need.

Hoping to only spend around £300 on the CPU and MOBO if both are necessary, a little more maybe if I should think about replacing the ram

Sadly £300 is just about half the amount of money you need, because you need new CPU, Motherboard and DDR4

 

[Shaun Jones]

I would upgrade CPU to an i7 9th gen processor and get a DDR4 memory kit and a MOBO that is compatible.

Any suggestions on which i7 would be a decent priced one that could be overclocked in future when needed? I get with the K series for the i5 specifically for the same reason, also any tips on what is worth looking for in a motherboard? it is the one area where I have zero experience or understanding of

 

[ElectrO_90]

You need threads when streaming, therefore the best option is to go Ryzen. Cheaper than Intel, as fast as Intel, better bang for buck.
There are many people who have written the same question as you have, and there are many answers.

 

[spdragoo]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87%20Extreme3/#CPU

With your current motherboard, you should be able to upgrade to the i7-4770K (or, with a BIOS update, to the i7-4790K). The 4770K should theoretically OC as high as your i5, & you'll get the extra threads; the 4790K starts off at stock where you're currently OC'd on your i5, so it might go even higher.

Only potential issue might be price & availability -- new ones seem to be hard to come by and/or expensive (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#s=13,26&f=34,40&sort=price) -- for the price of that 4770K, you can get a Ryzen 7 2700, MSI B450 Tomahawk, & 16GB of DDR4-3000 RAM (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fKjP7W).

 

[Shaun Jones]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87%20Extreme3/#CPU

With your current motherboard, you should be able to upgrade to the i7-4770K (or, with a BIOS update, to the i7-4790K). The 4770K should theoretically OC as high as your i5, & you'll get the extra threads; the 4790K starts off at stock where you're currently OC'd on your i5, so it might go even higher.

Only potential issue might be price & availability -- new ones seem to be hard to come by and/or expensive (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#s=13,26&f=34,40&sort=price) -- for the price of that 4770K, you can get a Ryzen 7 2700, MSI B450 Tomahawk, & 16GB of DDR4-3000 RAM (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fKjP7W).

Thank you this has helped alot, one last question if you don't mind, is there much of a noticable performance different between the LVA1510 and 1511 socket processors? Price wise thats closer to where I was thinking though thanks alot. Also for streaming would you take the ryzen over the 4790k?

 

[spdragoo]

Some of the performance improvements have been due to the higher stock frequencies in the LGA 1151 chips...but in large part in gaming you'll find that once you get the older LGA 1150 chips up to the same frequencies the gaming performance differences almost completely disappear. Streaming sees more of an improvement from the increase in core counts, but Intel doesn't offer as many cores as AMD does.

In your case, it depends on a) the availability & b) how much you can stretch your budget. If you can only afford £300-350, then your only real option is looking for an i7-4770 or 4790 (the "K" models will only fall in that budget if you can find one used, most likely). If you can stretch your budget to £500, then it's a toss-up: the Ryzen will have better performance, but with the 4790K you won't have to reinstall and/or reactivate Windows on your system.

 

[Shaun Jones]

Some of the performance improvements have been due to the higher stock frequencies in the LGA 1151 chips...but in large part in gaming you'll find that once you get the older LGA 1150 chips up to the same frequencies the gaming performance differences almost completely disappear. Streaming sees more of an improvement from the increase in core counts, but Intel doesn't offer as many cores as AMD does.

In your case, it depends on a) the availability & b) how much you can stretch your budget. If you can only afford £300-350, then your only real option is looking for an i7-4770 or 4790 (the "K" models will only fall in that budget if you can find one used, most likely). If you can stretch your budget to £500, then it's a toss-up: the Ryzen will have better performance, but with the 4790K you won't have to reinstall and/or reactivate Windows on your system.

ah ok thanks for explaining I just had a feeling that might have been the case but my brains like "LGA1511 is clearly the future" lol. One last question as i'm now following your advice, if I can get the Ryzen 2nd Gen 7 2700X for around the same price as the 2700 or just a little more is it worth it? i'm guessing that motherboard would still be fine for it yes? also should i used the stock cooler? i've heard good things but also heard never as good as an aftermarket cooler