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The title of this article in misleading. Nintendo is not nuking consoles or remotely disabling them. They are simply banning them from being able to be played online. The console itself is still perfectly playable offline. There's a big difference there. Nuking consoles would be a whole-nother animal. If they start doing this, prepare for a class action. "Oh, but you signed EULA/TOS/TOU agreement" means nothing. EULA/TOS/TOU does not forfeit basic consumer rights
 
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Streager said:
Man, if only Nintendo warned everyone before the console launched what they would do if they tried to hack their console.
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Yes, because playing a backup of a game you own is now "hacking". (No, let's not turn pirates into a convenient excuse to also punish paying customers.)

Is Nintendo legally in the clear doing this? Sure. Doesn't mean anyone should like living in a world where a company gets to effectively brick hardware you've paid for (you'll probably want an update some time unless you planned to play the launch titles forever) because you played a game the wrong way.

This is why I will not be buying a Switch 2.
 
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The issue people seem to be ignoring is that the gaming industry doesn't actually sell the games or the operating system. They are being sold licenses to use the software. A license can be revoked by contracts and other legal documents effectively meaning that if you violate the contract the company doesn't have to reimburse you. If you want to blame anyone blame Microsoft who was the first to implement the licensing system for end users.
 
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TheyStoppedit said:
The title of this article in misleading. Nintendo is not nuking consoles or remotely disabling them. They are simply banning them from being able to be played online. The console itself is still perfectly playable offline. There's a big difference there. Nuking consoles would be a whole-nother animal. If they start doing this, prepare for a class action. "Oh, but you signed EULA/TOS/TOU agreement" means nothing. EULA/TOS/TOU does not forfeit basic consumer rights
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Can the console still receive console firmware and software updates? Can the game receive patches? If not, then I consider the console nuked. There are games like Hogwarts Legacy that require an online download before you can play the game, otherwise you can only play the first 30 minutes or so. Not receiving updates and patches will effectively render the console useless over time and for a lot of single player games.
 
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ezst036 said:
Its always Nintendo. Attacking, attacking, attacking.

I always tell people to buy a Steam Deck. Valve is a much better company than Nintendo, Nintendo sucks.
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The steam deck is a scam(horrid OS, obsolete hardware for PC games, overpriced) Valve is honestly more evil than Nintendo in a lot of ways as well. Steam has gotten worse with every update. It's also a commercial failure. Windows handheld PCs are outselling it now. Don't be stupid with hardware and using hack devices and you won't get banned until the system is no longer supported.
 
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The steam deck is a scam(horrid OS, obsolete hardware for PC games, overpriced) Valve is honestly more evil than Nintendo in a lot of ways as well. Steam has gotten worse with every update. It's also a commercial failure. Windows handheld PCs are outselling it now. Don't be stupid with hardware and using hack devices and you won't get banned until the system is no longer supported.
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A scam?

The Switch 2 comes with 2-3 hours of battery life. A laughable 256GB of storage which hasn't been relevant in a decade. (1TB NVME drives are $50) A non-OLED edge lit LCD screen. Non Hall Effect or TMR sticks, so they're 100% going to drift over time. And it runs the equivalent of a RTX 2050 Mobile, a bottom of the bin GPU from about 5 years ago.

And they have the absolute nerve to charge $450 for that thing? lol That's WILD.
 
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The Deck is like 500 for worse specs (770ti, bad screen res on either the OLED or LCD, 16gb is obsolete for PC gaming, 90min-2hr realistic battery life, CPU on par with low end Walmart ryzen 3 laptop that's like $200) and a <Mod Edit> OS that's not optimized. Ur just a salty deck meatrider anyway. Especially when you see how much of a commercial failure the deck is compared to the switch 2 or other better PC handhelds
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I'm not sure why you're OCD focused on the Steam deck, which released in 2022, to make a comparison here.

There are a slew of handhelds on the market now that run circles around the Switch 2.

When they release an updated Steam Deck, it likely will too. And you can modify it without Valve bricking it or paying $80+ for games!!
 
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Can the console still receive console firmware and software updates? Can the game receive patches? If not, then I consider the console nuked. There are games like Hogwarts Legacy that require an online download before you can play the game, otherwise you can only play the first 30 minutes or so. Not receiving updates and patches will effectively render the console useless over time and for a lot of single player games.
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The device can still receive firmware updates, and all of that, just can't connect to online services
 
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I'm not sure why you're OCD focused on the Steam deck, which released in 2022, to make a comparison here.

There are a slew of handhelds on the market now that run circles around the Switch 2.

When they release an updated Steam Deck, it likely will too. And you can modify it without Valve bricking it or paying $80+ for games!!
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Valve won't make a sequel lol. It's a flop. Valve has ruined Steam for me lol. Glorified bloatware/adware now. To the point I want to pirate my games on PC now lol. The eShop doesn't break your system with every update since it's actually optimized software and much higher quality. And literally honestly Mario Kart is worth the 80 dollars.
 
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The issue people seem to be ignoring is that the gaming industry doesn't actually sell the games or the operating system. They are being sold licenses to use the software. A license can be revoked by contracts and other legal documents effectively meaning that if you violate the contract the company doesn't have to reimburse you. If you want to blame anyone blame Microsoft who was the first to implement the licensing system for end users.
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Hey, they can pretend to sell me something and I can pretend to buy something.... we just should not compare notes as to how we do all the pretending nudge nudge wink wink.
 
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Hopefully, Nintendo will piss off enough people with this that the rest who HAVENT yet bought this POS will stay FAR FAR away!

Nintendo is no longer a company that makes games. They are a litigation company first and foremost, they just happen to make games on the side.
 
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John Nemesh said:
Hopefully, Nintendo will piss off enough people with this that the rest who HAVENT yet bought this POS will stay FAR FAR away!

Nintendo is no longer a company that makes games. They are a litigation company first and foremost, they just happen to make games on the side.
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It should have happened a long time ago and it still hasn't happened and it probably won't. People are gobbling up the Switch 2 and initial reports are that it has outsold the original Switch by a fair amount with a much higher price tag.

Nintendo is very protective of their IP's for good reasons. They still make incredible games for a wide audience. I own a Switch and Switch 2 and have no problem adhering to Nintendo's EULA.
 
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As far as a future Class Action lawsuit for bricking consoles. Just a heads up, Nintendo much like Apple have incredible lawyers. They also warned in advance what they could do if their hardware was compromised. If the end user accepts the terms then it will make it incredibly hard to win litigation if they brick your hardware. Here's one of many articles covering this very topic.

And Nintendo isn't the only console maker that has issued that threat !

arstechnica.com

Why console makers can legally brick your game console

“If the ability [to brick a console] is there, someone will want to ‘see how it goes.'”…
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
 
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