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AGP Not Yet Dead Says Gigabyte

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tenor77

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How many builds has it been since I stopped using AGP? 3 or 4 I think?

No, it's dead. Even if you used this card, what are the odds you wouldn't hit a massive bottleneck on the processor and memory?
 

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I don't doubt that crossfire will work on AGP because i have heard of some boards mixing AGP 8x with PCI-E slots to make Crossfire... I'm sure it doesn't look pretty tho LOL
 

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[citation][nom]tenor77[/nom]How many builds has it been since I stopped using AGP? 3 or 4 I think?No, it's dead. Even if you used this card, what are the odds you wouldn't hit a massive bottleneck on the processor and memory?[/citation]

I call BS.

You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?
 

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[citation][nom]captaincharisma[/nom]i guess this kid has rich parents that spoil him to death LOL[/citation]

No, I'm the dad that spoils his kids. I have a job
 

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[citation][nom]chripuck[/nom]I call BS.You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?[/citation]

I fail to see why you're jumping a guy for having a new build every year. If he has the money, and likes computers, let him do what he wants.

It just makes you sound like a jealous douchebag, to be honest.
 

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Wow what a stupid argument. Who cares how many systems he has build since AGP has gone the way of the dodo. Many people replace their systems annually and some more often.
I've built 2 since my old 6800OC.


 
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More to the point, aren't there faster AGP cards out there right now? Wouldn't the 3850 AGP be a bit faster? (and yes, a lot warmer)
 

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[citation][nom]tenor77[/nom]No, I'm the dad that spoils his kids. I have a job[/citation]
It's also possible, that, like me, you're an idiot who just likes to build computers. I've built 6 since AGP that are all PCIe16 based, but I definitely didn't keep all of them. I build for friends and family! Screw you if you think you're getting software support though. Lol?
 
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chripuck said:
I call BS.

You've made 3 or 4 systems since the advent of PCIe? If that's true you have more money than common sense. The first native PCIe card was the GeForce 7 series which didn't come out until late 2005/early 2006. So you've been averaging an entirely new system every year?
I wouldn't say it's BS. Granted, I spend a lot of my income on computer parts (and a lot of superfluous ones at that), I've been through 6 motherboards in that amount of time, all the while working in a retail store. Newegg and used parts help feed my addiction...

I also don't think that this part is completely useless, if one had a 939 board with an Athlon 64 X2 and AGP (not unfeasible, nForce 3 250gb was a really decent board). My brother is still doing fine with his 4200+ and a 3870 (PCIe, I know, but it's similar performance wise). 8x AGP would be similar performance wise to PCIe 1.x 8x, which many Crossfire and SLI compatible boards use.
 

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The previous "fasted AGP card" was the 3850, I wouldn't think this 4650 would be any faster than that... yes, new generation but 46xx are entry level gaming cards where the 38xx was mid to upper level gaming.
 

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I am still using my P4 3.0 system (865P chipset) with ATI X800XT AGP card. There is no way I am going to stick a newer video card into this thing! It may make older games, like Oblivion a tad faster, but would not enable enable me to play any of the latest games.
 

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My only problem with any AMD/ATI AGP from about the 1ks and on are the fact that the Drivers haven't been that great. I have Radeon 2600xt I bought for my sons older system and had all kinds of Drivers issues, had to settle on the Omega Drivers to find any kind of stability on the AGP bus. This of course isn't an issue for the PCI-e side of things. So even if they made this thing and it helped an aging system my question would be how are the drivers. Correct me if I am wrong but AMD/ATI doesn't support the AGP bus anymore and only the 3rd Party vendors do.
 

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Daughter's machine: Asus p4pe, P4 @ 3.6Ghz, 2Gb ddr400 @426Mhz,powercolor HD3850 AGP (82$ on newegg), 500W ps :
Crysis, farcry2, assasins creed, Dirt, Grid, NFS, FEAR, etc etc all play on very reasonable settings with nice detail smooth as butter on 1680:1050. Super PI 1M in 45sec. Absolutely sufficient and problem free !
As for the 4650 agp above - it's a con job for the uninitiated as it only uses ddr2 !!! all the AGP haters out there, get a clue...
 

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Hah, I have 3 AGP based systems at home, one of them needs an upgrade, when the prices are out I'd consider this card for sure. There are tons of mixed reviews for agp based cards out there, many of the recent batches of cards work horribly on AGP since they're designed for PCIE. I've been very hesitant on upgrading from my radeon 9700 pro $$$$, that's right folks, it still runs like a champ. But I'd definitely consider replacing the geforce 3 i have in my other ancient system now.

And I've done 20+ builds over the last couple of years for sure, only 1 for myself though.
 

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Daughter's machine: Asus p4pe, P4 3.6Ghz, 2Gb ddr400 @426Mhz,powercolor HD3850 AGP (82$ on newegg), 500W ps :
Crysis, farcry2, assasins creed, Dirt, Grid, NFS, FEAR, etc etc all play on very reasonable settings with nice detail smooth as butter on 1680:1050. Super PI 1M in 45sec. Absolutely sufficient and problem free !
As for the 4650 agp above - it's a con job for the uninitiated as it only uses ddr2 !!! all the AGP haters out there, get a clue...
 

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This card will likely be over $150. Putting a $150 card into a computer that is probably not even worth $150 just doesnt seem like a worthwhile investment. Maybe its just me.
 
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